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So you were looking for something to listen to and you ended up here. What's up? My name is Ethan, and I'm the host of the show. Over the past 25 years, I've had a wild group of people walk through my tattoo shop and tell me some of the craziest stories you would never hear unless you were sitting in that chair. I've invited a few of these maniacs to join me and talk about everything, anything, and nothing. Whether it's about UFOs, aliens, food, conspiracies, or whatever, you're sure to be entertained and probably get a laugh out of it. Or you're gonna think we're a bunch of nutjobs and never come back again. Either way, you're here with us now, so sit back, relax, take cruise control, and enjoy the ride. Welcome to the Tat and Chat Podcast. What's going on, man? Josh haven't seen you in like three years. She was uh sick last time, and uh we um don't have Renee today. Renee is gone. Dead. Renee died. She she's uh she's on vacation somewhere. Sounds like a blast.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, sounds like a a real blast from police and military.
SPEAKER_01So what we did what we did is Ethan always does our uh little Ethan does our cameras. So we we sent him over here, not on Renee's mic, in Renee's seat on a different mic. He did slobber all over her mic, and then we made him move it.
SPEAKER_02Shut your mouth right now. I do not.
SPEAKER_01And he also did um breathe into Josh's lungs. Right into my mouth.
SPEAKER_00I can't help breathing. You was you assaulted me by breathing into my mouth.
SPEAKER_01It was uh aerial assault after he ate pizza, little pizza rolls.
SPEAKER_00The pizza does not taste good like secondhand.
SPEAKER_01You'd think it would, though. You think like, you know, if you're sitting here and you're hungry, you know, it's dinner time, we haven't eaten yet, and then someone accidentally breathes pizza breath on you, you'd be like, Oh, that'd be good, but it's just not, right? No, it's not.
SPEAKER_02I'm like a mama bird passing on her food to her young, okay? That makes it better.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was I don't know if it makes it better.
SPEAKER_01Makes it makes it worse.
SPEAKER_00I'm just glad I'm on antibiotics. So I'm good. He can so what did you what did you actually have?
SPEAKER_01What'd you like strep throat or something?
SPEAKER_00So I had strep throat, yeah. I woke up uh Tuesday. No, it was Mon Monday. I felt like a little a little like I had an upset stomach, but my throat was fine. And I was like, uh, you know, sometimes you have a little upset stomach, it's alright.
SPEAKER_01I didn't really think it's well you can't be up all night like you know slobbing knobs. Yeah. You do that to people, I mean, if it depending on who you're doing it with, I mean, give get a sore throat. I would assume. I don't know, but I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_00But then Tuesday, I had a sore throat, and I was like, man, we got podcast tonight. Like, I don't know about this. So I'm like, but just sore throat, right? So I took some uh Nyquil or Dayquill, took Dayquill, that didn't really do anything. I was chewing on cough drops, nothing was working, and as the day progressed, like it got worse and worse, and I could barely talk. I'm like, I can't fuck, I can't even talk. How am I gonna record? So that's when I told you guys. And then uh I still didn't go in, so I was just like, it's just a sore throat. And then Wednesday came, still it was worse, but I was like, it's just a sore throat. I don't get it.
SPEAKER_01Isn't strap like when you have like those little like white things on your throat, like little puss pockets or something?
SPEAKER_00It's so bad. So I went in Thursday, I went in and they they said I had strep throat. You should have seen how bad it was. Like, this is like no joke. The the doctor, she looks, she goes, uh, you know, open your mouth, say ah. So she looks in my mouth, and as soon as she looks at it, she goes, Oh, that's bad. And I was like, Is it that bad? And she goes, Listen, um if if you can't breathe tonight, you need to go to the ER. I was like, it's is it that bad? She's like, it's your throat's almost swollen shut. It's so bad. So when I got home, I looked at it and it was like it was all swollen shut. That hangy down thing was hanging down so far, it was like touching the bottom of my of my back of my tongue.
SPEAKER_01Just swollen, just swollen from the infection. Yeah, I guess it's it was like white spots all over it. Oh, it looks so bad. My daughter get she she had a whenever she was getting strep throat back to back. Like she'd get it, we'd give her antibiotics, she'd get better. Then she'd get it again. And I'm like, what the fuck? I think she had like three or four times in a row, and like gotta change your toothbrush. Come to find out, no. She had a water bottle. We changed toothbrushes that all the things you're supposed to do. She had like a Stanley, yeah. And she's just drinking out of that. I'm like, I'm like, Do you ever wash that? She's like, No. I'm like, that's why you keep getting it. Um so that's nasty shit, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I couldn't. Um, so since Thursday, like I can't eat anything like any kind of meat or anything, or like well, I haven't tried chips or anything, but anything hard. Well, you can't swallow it. Like, yeah, I can't swallow it. Um, so I've I've had like soup, cereal, oatmeal, bananas, um pudding, fucking bananas and pudding. Josh's favorite fruit. A lot of fruit, but I'm like just I'm just hungry all the time because I don't freaking eat anything substantial. Yeah, dude. I uh I I don't know if I've ever had strep throat.
SPEAKER_01I I don't think I ever have. I think this is the first time. Yeah, it's like weird. But all these but all these viruses are going around right now, they're like getting worse and worse and worse. Like they're fucking like they're getting out of control. Like they're saying the antibiotics don't work on them anymore, like some some some sicknesses and stuff, like because people don't take the antibiotics properly, so we're building like super viruses basically.
SPEAKER_00Well, this is the antibiotics are working because I can talk now, my throat doesn't hurt as bad. It's still like I tried to eat a um piece of like leftover pork, and I freaking took just a little bite of it and swallowed it. I was like, yep, nope, not ready for that yep. So brutal. Not quite ready for that, but it's it's so much better. Do you like cream of wheat?
SPEAKER_01Uh I'm not sure I've ever had it. It's it's you ever had cornmeal? Like I don't think I've had that either. Well, it's like oatmeal, but cream of wheat's like wheat. It's it's ground-up wheat, it's like a tick of paste.
SPEAKER_00It's almost like I don't probably don't eat it. Oh, it's fucking delicious. Add a sugar on it. Grits? It's kind of like grits but thinner. We had when I was in the army, because I was I went to uh basic training in Fort Knox, Kentucky. So it's the south, and they served friggin' what did I just say, grits? Grits. They served grits every day for grits. Grits and butter. So I was like, oh man, all you hear about is people in the south eating grits. I gotta try it. Why why? Why do they eat grits?
SPEAKER_01I like I like cream and wheat, but I don't like grits, which they're pretty much the same thing. It just grits are grittier. It's like thicker, chunkier, almost like um tapioca, but smaller. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I like tapioca.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you know what? What sucks is Renee's gone today. So Renee's in Mexico. Mexico. Mexico. She's in Mexico, and she's on vacation. She's been playing this vacation for months. She's been talking about it. We knew we weren't gonna record, so we decided, me and Josh decided we're gonna come in today, and I had a special guest. Levi the Amish. We're oh shit. He got cold feet and didn't send enough to say his name.
SPEAKER_00I don't think he can say his name.
SPEAKER_01Now we can say it right now. He's not here. Who cares? You gotta censor it.
SPEAKER_02You gotta censor it when you're gonna do it. I'll censor it out.
SPEAKER_01So we got beep Evil. Not here. He was building a buggy. He said he was sick. I go there and I'm like, hey, I'm like, uh, you still good for tonight? He's like, um, I got uh my my ears kind of feel funny. I'm like, I got headphones, don't worry, you won't have to worry about it. He's like, yeah, I don't, I know I'm not feeling so good. I'm like, are you are you getting cold feet? I said, you chicken shit? I'm like, you can't come down here and film with us. He's like going, oh well. So he probably shouldn't anyway. So I think I think I think reality setting in that, oh shit, he's gonna do this thing.
SPEAKER_02But man, I'm the new Levi. Go to the hell.
SPEAKER_01So we got Ethan here. Instead of yelling across the room at us when we're talking about something, we actually gave him a mic. But I actually have a mute button here, and uh I can mute him like I am right now. He's trying to talk, but he cannot talk. No, I need to stay at home. Man, this kid, this kid says this kid starts running, running some stuff.
SPEAKER_02This way I won't always be like, oh yeah, did you did you hear that thing that I just said? It was wasn't that so cool. I won't have to yell across the room anymore.
SPEAKER_01You say so much shit, Ethan, that like I think I black out probably 70% of it. And I'm like, it's like he's talking, and he's like, Yeah, so anyway, I'm like, I start thinking about stuff. I'm like, did I did I leave the uh the burner on today?
SPEAKER_00My uh my well you'll be 23 in a little in a couple months. Your son? Yeah, my name is the one.
SPEAKER_01Is that the one I met at the game?
SPEAKER_00Uh no, that's Devin. Devin older, he's 27. Devin. So Xander, he's the 23-year-old. But when he was probably probably around 15, he would just talk so he still does, but he would just talk so much. I remember one time at the dinner table, he'd just get just talking, talk and talk and talk. And finally I'm like, Xander, shut the fuck up. I've been there. He let he stopped talking, and I'm like, man, now I feel like shit. Just fucking don't shut up.
SPEAKER_01He I think recently I told Ethan to shut up. I think I'm like, you don't shut the fuck up. You just keep going. I was like, just that do you remember when you're in the car driving with your brother?
SPEAKER_02Um maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I think we were arguing about oh, we were talking about the movie. We went and saw that movie Um Aqualung.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Iron Lung.
SPEAKER_01Isaiah wants to watch that. Was it any good? It's good, it's worth watching. It's an I liked it. What's really cool about it is it's an indie film. I mean, this dude had he spent three million dollars. That sounds like a lot to us, but in the world of Hollywood, that's not a lot. He spent, I believe, three million on the whole production and I think marketing as well. So, like most movies aren't like that. You got you got uh, you know, a$20 million movie, it's probably like 50-50. You know, 50% went to making the movie, then 50% went to marketing and producers and all that.
SPEAKER_00How many millions did you spend on Elvis?
SPEAKER_01Um um millions of pennies. I don't even think I spent millions of pennies.
SPEAKER_00Um how much is a million pennies? Figure that out, Lily.
SPEAKER_02Uh I I mean I can search it up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, find find out how much a million pennies. That's what we just gotta give him tasks so he doesn't talk too much. Okay, find out how many a million pennies adds up to please. And uh, but the movie, what's cool about um was it uh was it I say aqua lung? Iron Lung Iron Lung. I keep thinking of um Anchorman where he's like Aqua Lung. Um but uh he's a YouTuber, um, marketplier, who always made these little short skits and stuff, and just he played video games and he had a huge fan base, and eventually he must have been making money off YouTube and stuff. Well, he had mentioned making a movie years ago, and he had enough money. I don't know if he had investors or his own money, but he made this movie. So um he had so many followers on YouTube that like he could um he he basically talked to a whole bunch of theaters. I don't know how he did it, how he managed it, but they all agreed to play his movie. So, and that's nationwide, maybe even worldwide. Um, was it worldwide? I don't know. I think maybe, I don't know. So at least national. So he convinced them to play his movie, I think one night. It was one night only, Friday, the blah blah blah blah. His movie's gonna play.
SPEAKER_02Apparently, it was gonna be like in a couple select theaters, yeah. And they changed it and like it became really big, and everybody's like, oh well, we gotta have this movie, and they like spread it out across a bunch of theaters.
SPEAKER_01So they spread it out much across a theater, uh much across uh across a bunch of theaters. These are and um, but what's cool is they end up doing like a longer run. And so he spent three million on everything and using his YouTube channel and just those avenues to advertise it and stuff, and uh his three million dollar movie, I think overall um expense, I think made him like 40 million dollars at the end of the day. Ended up being in theaters for a couple weeks. Like this it's an indie film, and you watch it. I mean, if you're an indie filmmaker like I am, you know, sometimes they're a little slow going, and it is what it is, but it's but the stuff that he got right, he got really right, man. Like there it could have been shorter, could have been a short film, it didn't need to be as long as it was, and he was honoring the game and in based off a video game. But uh indie film, man, like three million bucks made. I mean, he ten times as or more his profit margin is, and that's uh pretty that's that's a massive success in Hollywood. If you can like people make double their money all the time in movies, but that's not considered a huge success. They I think it's like I think I think like eight eight times what you invested is that's considered a success.
SPEAKER_00So Rocky, the first Rocky movie, um Sylvester Stallone. Now I'm gonna get these numbers wrong, so if somebody's listening, don't Ethan do the research. By the way, I believe it was seven million dollars to make Sylvester Stallone invested to make Rocky and it grossed almost three hundred million dollars. He was the producer he was the I think he was the writer. He was he was the writer, he he wasn't the producer until Rocky II, but Rocky I he made it, he wrote the screenplay or whatever, um and acted in it. He only made$74,000 on the first one because that's what they paid him to act in it.
SPEAKER_01But this this story, the studios took all that money.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dude, that's what that's and then fought with him when he made Rocky II. He told him he wanted uh one million dollars and five percent of the gross, and they they fought with him, wouldn't give it to him. You just made three hundred million dollars off him, and you won't give him a million fucking dollars.
SPEAKER_01Dude, that is like the industry. The industry is brutal. Like it's it's you know, that's why I'm constantly trying to pursue pushing all these little projects that I have and that we have. Like, you know, we're doing our indie films and and and we're doing, you know, I have the recording studio home and I do the music and stuff, and what's and I released it myself. Like I could probably find a small label, you know, we could probably do stuff, but um what we want to do is uh we want to try to um uh I want to maintain ownership of my product, and so by doing that, um it's a slow go, it's a lot harder to build, um, but you own it. So if all of a sudden five years down the road or ten years down the road, you become somebody or something, and people are like, oh, who's this? What do they got? What do they got? You own all those properties as they start to sell or rent or whatever. You know, it might not be in the millions, but um, if you're if you're selling a million copies of something through a company and you're only getting 2%, 5%, and you'll be lucky if you make a hundred thousand dollars off those millions of dollars, right? Um, you could you could rent or sell a hundred thousand times and you're making, you know, fifty percent, you you you can make like five times the amount of money. It's not it doesn't have as big of a reach, but the payoff's way better, and uh you own it and stuff. That's kind of what we're trying to do. So that's that because you hear those stories all the time. Like that was his story. He wrote that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it it paid off in the long run. Like he did end up getting a million dollars and five percent for Rocky 2. And but he made that one made almost 300 million too. So what five percent that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01He got a million and five percent. So what that's what happened with Robert Dow Robert Downey Jr. with um the Iron Man franchise. Did you know that? He uh so he made the movie, and I think at the time, I think Robert Downey Jr. was um he might have he might have been kind of washed up at that point. I can't remember. I don't I think he had really done anything. He had a lot of a lot of like Well, how dare you, washed up. Well, he had been in trouble, he went to rehab. I think Hollywood had kind of like outcast him, and I think he was just kind of like, you know, whatever, man, you know, and uh I don't think he was doing a whole lot of shit at that point, but he did Iron Man, and Iron Man wasn't like it wasn't like um Batman, or it wasn't like you know, all these big names, Superman, you know, that's DC, obviously, but like there are names that everybody just knows. People didn't really know Iron Man like that. And so well, that's the thing. And I think the movie made like$350 million or something crazy like that, and he and he, I think he worked it only for a percentage. I think I think he made like$380 million off the Marvel franchise because of his contract. I could be wrong with the numbers, I don't really know. But um, Ethan, why don't you look it up? What did Robert Downey Jr. make? What was his percentage, and how much did he make off the Marvel franchises? But he like obviously is uh is a major player.
SPEAKER_02By the way, that money thing, it was it was ten thousand dollars for the ten thousand.
SPEAKER_01That's about that's about what I spent on Elvis. That's funny, one million dollars.
SPEAKER_00So I read a story this is quite a while ago, so I don't remember if it was arm or leg, but uh Robert um there was this kid, uh young kid, eight, nine years old, something like that, lost either an arm or leg, one or the other, and like was gonna meet Robert Downey Jr. And he thought that was his that was a like a big thing, like oh my god, I get to meet him because I had this accident, lost the limb or whatever. I get to meet Robert Downey Jr. and he wanted to meet the kid, so he brings him into this room and has a case on the table, opens it up, and it's fucking Iron Man's either arm or leg, whatever. Fit for the kid to wear.
SPEAKER_01That's oh, so he actually had a prosthetic leg that was an Iron Man leg?
SPEAKER_00That was Iron Man and gave it to this, just gave it to this kid. That's if you're in his position, you should be doing chili that. You should, but you don't hear that. I love stories like that where you hear celebrities that give to people.
SPEAKER_01There's a lot of celebrities that do that shit, you just don't hear about it because they don't want the fluff. They don't, they don't that they're not in it for that. You know, and you know, I mean, uh what would you want to call the newspaper, hey, I'm gonna go to this hospital and do this really cool thing? Why don't you guys come there and just make an article about it? It's fucking cheesy, man. Yeah, I mean, just do the cool thing. You know, did you find out what he made off that movie?
SPEAKER_02Uh well, off the franchise or just off Iron Man 1. Well, what what what do you have? Um, well, off the full franchise, this is the AI overview, so it might be inaccurate. Uh, 400 million to over 500 million off of the entirety of Marvel. Because I'm pretty sure it's because.
SPEAKER_00Just Robert Downey Jr.
SPEAKER_01And I think I think for at least the Iron Man part of it, and I think maybe his whole Iron Man contract because he got a percentage. Because I think when they did the first Iron Man, they didn't think they didn't really know what it was gonna be like, you know, I didn't know if it was gonna be a big success. I mean, it's it's an awesome movie. Do you watch the Marvel stuff or no? Yeah, I mean that first Iron Man was fucking badass.
SPEAKER_00See, I never used to. When I was a kid, I didn't want I didn't really care. I liked I always liked Spider-Man, but anything else, well, Superman some, but everything else I didn't really care about. So, like then growing up, then Batman came out with uh what Jack Nicholson as Joker, that was okay, but I still wasn't it was corny as that was kind of that was that was campy like the original Adam West Batman. Yeah, I still wasn't really into it. We've been watching it lately. But as my kids started getting I'm I think the first one that I really got into was Transformers. That first Transformer movie, I was like, that was fucking awesome. And then I just got into it and started watching them all with them.
SPEAKER_01It was good. The Transformers was good, they were good, but um, as a diehard Transformers like cartoon kid fan, um, I was bummed, man. Because like see, I didn't watch the cartoon because they get the way they looked back then, they they had like little sleeks, like sleek square arms and stuff and little pivot points and stuff. Almost like your Five Nights at Freddy's like action figures. Like the way they moved, and before they did Transformers the movie, there was a commercial out there, and it looked like one of the Transformers was breakdancing doing something. It was look and it looked so I'm like, oh my god, they could totally make a Transformers movie. And then when they did, I think it was um um who who directed that? Was it uh Michael Bay, I think. Michael Bay. When Michael Bay did it, I think he redesigned all the Transformers to be more alien, so they're all the gears and techno technological kind of like stuff sticking out. What's up?
SPEAKER_02Uh there was that one Transformers movie called like Transformers One that came out like a few years ago, I think. And like everybody it flopped, but everybody liked it. Um, and like it it just kind of sucked that it flopped, but you should watch it.
SPEAKER_00It's like it's a it's an animated movie, so it's everybody liked it, but it flopped.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's the flop with the nobody wanted to watch it. Like if it flopped the box office.
SPEAKER_00But um like Waterworld.
SPEAKER_02It's like an origin of Optimus.
SPEAKER_00Waterworld's a great movie. That's like that was a big flop. I love that movie. Pulse Man, that's another one. That one's a great movie, too.
SPEAKER_01I was thinking about that with Tom Petty in it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Used to be someone famous.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's a great movie. There's some good movies that flopped.
SPEAKER_02But like they um what was I gonna say? It's like an origin for Optimus Prime and uh what's the guy's gonna be? Oh, I know what you're talking about. What's his name? The villain, the villain guy's name?
SPEAKER_01Oh, um, Megatron.
SPEAKER_02Megatron. Yeah, it's like an origin for those guys. And like they were like friends or something, like they had like a parting or something. But apparently it flopped like really bad. So Hasbro like isn't doing like movie deals or something. I don't know if that's the case, but I heard something like that. It was it was pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_01I think I watched it, but I don't remember now. It's kinda it's it's it's all digital, right? It's like uh like an animated thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's all it's all CGI.
SPEAKER_01What's the Vin Diesel movies? This pitch. Black was the first one. Oh my god. Um Chronicles of Riddick.
SPEAKER_00Yes. That is awesome.
SPEAKER_01I was in Europe and like I was um we were on tour. I was on a tour bus. One of my buddies had a disc. He's like, you gotta watch it. He was the guitar player. And and so when you're driving from country to country, like you literally just you're sitting on your bus. Like some people there, like our bus was cool. We had an upper deck, and there was all these bunks up there. And then you went down the stairs, there's a bathroom, there's like these tables you can chill at. So I brought my laptop, and at the time, um, no one had a cell phone. We someone had a cell phone, but you had to use Skype, you had to get to the location, we had to hook our computer up. Somebody had a Skype account, and that's how we called. So we like nowadays you probably text in, hanging out, get international calling. But back then, in back in 2007, you didn't. So um, that's almost 20 fucking years ago. Wild. So anyway, so we're driving on the bus, and my buddy's like, dude, I got this movie. I it's it's one of my favorite movies. I'm like, what is it? He's like, it's it's Vin Diesel. I'm like, oh fuck Vin Diesel. He's like, it's Chronicle, he's like, it's Chronicles of Riddick, it's it's pitch black too. And I'm like, I don't even know what pitch black is. He's like, oh he's on this planet and he's he's got these specialized, but we gotta check it out. I'm like, all right, dude. Actually, I've been thinking about I actually had I think I just told you about it the other day that we should watch it, but dude, that movie when I watched it, I was like, this is like how the fuck did I miss this movie? Like about the the threshold, take us to the threshold that like they're going to planet to planet, destroying each planet and stuff. And dude, what in all?
SPEAKER_02And it's like they're like the um they're the take us to your leader.
SPEAKER_01They're um, what are they? The the hat holy, he's the holy half dead. Like somehow they're dead, but they like they're like zombies basically, a zombie army. Dude, what a fucking awesome movie. Did you see the third one? Yeah, it's not it's not as good, but it reminded me more of Pitch Black, yeah, but it's still good. That but but the Chronicles of Riddick, that one, fucking dude.
SPEAKER_00I love that. That's what it reminded me of though was the cartoon for Transformers, because they made the cartoon in between I think it's in between two and three, right? Or was it between one and two? What is they made a Chronicles of Riddick cartoon? I never watched the cartoon. Yeah, it's eh, it's a cartoon. It's but I I I don't I'm now I'm second guessing myself. I'm not sure. It's either in between one and two or in between two and three.
SPEAKER_01But it's it's probably between one and two because after he does that thing, that girl goes to the camp, she goes to prison somewhere, she becomes like a I was gonna say ravager, but that's from she becomes like a a uh pirate or something, right? And she ends up in in the in a prison, and that's where she is. And then the second one, that's when she runs into him because it's the little kid from that first one. But I gotta watch them again. Those movies are awesome. We should watch them at the theater. There you go. Bring the kids down. I want him to watch it. We'll we'll plan a night, we'll come down and watch him at the theater. You had mentioned something, and it made me think of this story I just heard. Um, you said something about a kid while losing his leg. Did you see that kid? Um, I don't know where it was, it might have been in Florida, I can't remember where it was, but um he uh he was hanging, it might have been Florida, he was walking with his family, like a 13-year-old boy, and some guy came up and slit his fucking throat. What? Yeah, that just happened. Slit his throat. Oh, and he lived. Yeah, he lived. I saw I saw the pictures and I was like, what happened? I I forgot to read the article. Oh my god. So he got his throat slit, right? Well, he's all over the news, right? And his mom and dad are there. His dad's like this weird looking dude. He's just kind of sitting there and being all quiet, and the mom's like, oh my God, and you know, it was horrible, it was a nightmare, and blah blah blah blah. And the dude's sitting there, he's like, just cool as fuck, dude. He's just hanging out. He's like, Yeah. And he's and and they're like, How old is this guy? Like 13. This kid, he's got he's got like little like 13-year-old scum stash growing in. He's got his hair, he's he's all cool, he's hanging out there, and they're like, So was it crazy? He's like, Yeah, he's like, you know, the guy jumped up and cut me, and he's like, he he said something, and I can't remember, and he was just being cool. The mom's like, It's it's it's it's been really hard on us, and we've been really struggling with it. And the dude goes, he looks over at her like she's talking on national television, he's like as she's saying shit, like we're scared. He's like, he's like, I'm not like he's like mouthing, I'm not shit. Like just being so cool. He's like a total fucking dude gangster, dude. And it is fucking funny, but like, dude, it's I guess it was so close it could if he would have bled out and died, but he didn't, and kid's a fucking badass, man. Just like So why they know why it happened? Just crazy. I think earlier that day or that week or something, the guy had gotten arrested for having, I think, a sledgehammer and attacking somebody. So he's just attacking random people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Just like that.
SPEAKER_01And and I think he's done it multiple times, but I know that I think either that day they caught him or released him, and I th and I think he may have even been released still. Isn't this country just frigging crazy? Dude, shit is weird right now. That happened in Ogdensburg, right up from we owned Wimpy's restaurant, right up the road from the restaurant. My kids work there. My wife fucking obviously owns it and works there. We have people like old people go there. Someone got stabbed three three buildings, three doors down, like, you know, 200 feet away. Someone got stabbed there, and the dude was out like that next day or that night. That's crazy. Like, how how how did we get to that point? Like, how the fuck did we get to a point where you do some crazy crime and then you get then and then you get out?
SPEAKER_00This is in the political show.
SPEAKER_02I we're not gonna get into it, but dude, but it's sound the alarms, sound the political alarms.
SPEAKER_01Sound the political alarms.
SPEAKER_02We can't have no political no sorry, no politics of any kind.
SPEAKER_01It is it is fucked up, but that kid is a badass. And um pretty cool. The chillest kid anybody has ever been.
SPEAKER_00It's like bringing on motherfucker. No, he's the coolest dude. Hey, what's going on?
SPEAKER_02You know, just coming through.
SPEAKER_01This where do you think Renee's safe? So, yeah, that's a whole fucking thing. Like, so she's been talking about going to Mexico, and um and I'm like, you know, I mean cool. I already tell you guys all the time. I mean, I'm not huge on like I'm not huge. I'm not huge on like traveling.
SPEAKER_00You've never told me that.
SPEAKER_01I'm I'm not I'm not huge at all. I'm the smallest guy you know. I'm the small Ethan. Did that go over your head? Um I'm I'm assuming it's an innuendo of some kind. She's in Playa del Carmen, Mexico. Yep. Okay. So she said she's going all this shit. Well then and then that um that um cartel leader gets assassinated or murdered or whatever happened. So did you hear what happened with that? I guess somehow they tracked one of his, he had a lot of girls, and there's one girl who had a maybe she had a cell phone on, so somehow they tracked his phone, found out where he was, and I don't know if they were going to try to arrest him, but uh a gunfight happened. It sounds like a it sounded like an old west type of situation, right? So they're back, they're they're they're they're battling, they're battling it out, and he gets shot, they bring him to the hospital, he fucking dies. Well comes to come to find out, I mean, they knew this, but I I didn't know this. But that cartel is, I think, the deadliest or one of the the best. Yes, the top cartel.
SPEAKER_00He's the like the worst cartel leader in Mexico. Yeah, so this is great news. I saw this. They don't think that he actually would have died, but the the police and the the politicians and stuff were gonna be in some shit if he lived. Like he had he had that kind of pull. So they just decided he's not gonna live. So um on the way to the hospital, they just offed his ass.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, so they uh that wouldn't surprise me, especially in Mexico, which makes which is another reason why I think fucking Mexico is terrifying and going to these countries to vacation. Like people go there all the fucking time. They have like those hotels all have their own private security.
SPEAKER_00But like, have you seen these Mexican, these, these, these, um, they have these elite cartel like um SWAT team type dudes in the world where they make their money is from well, not all their money, they obviously make it with drugs, but they're making a lot of money off these resorts where Americans are coming to visit. And here's Renee over there, like, oh, we're safe in these you know, resorts. Yeah, literally, she's up right now because of this shit's going on. They're trying to seize control and they're killing each other.
SPEAKER_01And so, like, she like literally says, Yeah, we're heading to Mexico. I'm so excited. I'm like, and it almost simultaneously, boink, my news popped up, said that Mexico's basically getting terrorized by these cartels, that Americans are being told the shelter in place. I'm like, holy shit! And so, like, she's sending pictures of her flying in a plane with her husband and stuff, doing things. I'm like, Well, then she sends pictures, they're there hanging out, and I'm like, it looks like there's nobody there, by the way. Yeah, I'm like, dude, are they Renee's nuts? So maybe they're just crazy enough to get away.
SPEAKER_00What do you do at that point? Like, you're you're there, you've spent a lot of money. Now though.
SPEAKER_01So these hotels, they have their own security and shit, but like, it's just like hired guns, you know what I mean? Yeah, and these fucking and this cartel has like some nasty, like that they look like like a big city SWAT team, like with their all their gear and shit. I mean, I honestly don't think they're any match for our military. No, odds are they're they bought last year's model of all the stuff, and hopefully our military said, okay, like before you put that on the market for everybody to buy, um, give us the shit that um you know shuts it all down. Give us the shit that like like makes that obsolete. You know what I mean? So it's it if we went in there, which that could happen, man. I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like, I don't know what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_00But anyway, don't talk politics. Damn it. Oh my god, that was so let me say this for before you get up before you continue. That when when our president said he was going to you know fight the cartel. Remember all the videos the cartels were were posting, like bringing up and all this stuff. Like, are you fucking kidding me? When we send in special forces, they will wipe you fucks off the planet in like a weekend.
SPEAKER_01Our military is pretty intense. I mean, they just did that in Venezuela, wherever they went. Was that was that where it was where they went and it got that president out of there and stuff? Like they went in overnight and did all this crazy shit.
SPEAKER_00I mean, went in, killed a bunch of people, stole their stole their president and his fucking wife, and left, and everybody was like, I mean, uh, where'd they go?
SPEAKER_01So, I mean, I mean, there's no there's no doubts that uh our military's badass. Our military is pretty intense. So, like, so I don't know what's happening over there, but uh um Renee's over there. Yeah, and she's hanging out at a at a at a in a in a Mexican hotel resort that there are people from here that were on the news saying that they were um they were stuck there or their flights got redirected. I can't believe their flight didn't get redirected. Like I all I was reading on the news is that everything's getting redirected, and she was like, no, we're flying here. Nope, we're here, we landed. I'm like, really? I'm like, the news is making it out to be like everything's getting like canceled and redirected and all these things.
SPEAKER_00Do you think she's in the cartel?
SPEAKER_01She could be. She speaks a language I don't understand. I don't know if that's French. Right? I I don't know if that's French or Spanish. What do you mean?
SPEAKER_02I'll scare the set. I don't think we should make any jokes about this right now. I don't think this is the best time. You're probably right.
SPEAKER_01We're a long ways from Mexico. Yeah, we're totally safe here. Yeah, nothing's gonna happen here.
SPEAKER_02By the way, what do you think the news like does? They always like do that. They always like uh like you know, they all yeah, they always like well, they don't always like fully lie, they just like escalate things and make them seem bigger. That was like I don't know, I learned something about that happening like in the past and school or something.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's part of their job. They want you to listen to them, and the longer you listen to them, the better the ratings are, and the more they can tell you stories like that.
SPEAKER_00It's like at some point, reporters went from reporting the news to trying to make money.
SPEAKER_01Well, look, it's like our podcast, you know, like we just we you know, we we have so many viewers because it's so awesome to hear us talk and tell stories.
SPEAKER_00You do have millions of viewers.
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SPEAKER_01Sick and tired of the political bullshit? Come listen to our bullshit. We're gonna tell you a story about politics. We might not finish. This is the political episode. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna weasel out certain words so it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER_02But it's gotta cut out every reference to politics. So it's like, and so yes, I I oh Renette. Hello. Bye guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, it's hard sometimes. Like, usually we don't talk about these things going on in the world, but when things are going on in the world, it's kind of hard not to talk at least a little bit about politics.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, I mean, I I we I pay attention to everything, I pay attention to the news. I listen to a few different sources, and but Renee is there in it. That's why it's intense. That's why it's like, holy shit, like she's over there right now. Like, and I she she says she's safe, so I I trust her, you know. I hope that she have a good time, but we hope she's safe. And uh to me, I'm like, holy shit, this is crazy. I would not go over there right now. I didn't want to go. My uh my band before I I left Freya last year, um, they went to Europe, and I was like, I'm not going to Europe. And I'm like, so we we we hired a couple people to come in and fill in, and I I knew that they were gonna go to Europe and I wasn't gonna go to Europe, which led to me ultimately leaving, and they kind of stuck in the band now, they're they're part of the band, and uh Brian Rebecca from rig time, and um, but I didn't want to go because Rush at the time, Putin was fucking saying he's gonna blow shit up and do all this stuff. I'm like, I don't want to fucking be over there if he decides to do that. Like it just everything felt really unstable, and I was like, I am not going, I'm not leaving the country because when the pandemic happened, I had uh I knew somebody that was over in Ireland and they did the shutdown when she was on vacation, and she got stuck there for like I think six months or eight months or some crazy amount of time when she couldn't come back to the States. I'm like, imagine if something like that happened during a wartime. I mean, Renee and Mac could get stuck there over in Mexico. Let's hope they don't. If they get locked down and shit, that'd suck.
SPEAKER_00Well, not that bad, right? Why are you gonna say well? I mean, they are in the vacation places everyone. Like you're you're on a freaking beach resort, like, oh god, my life is terrible. I've been locked in this beach.
SPEAKER_01We have to stay at the whole the the the the all-inclusive hotel and throughout the rest of the winter.
SPEAKER_02We have to be in sunlight all of the time.
SPEAKER_00Do you I wonder if they just pay for it? They're not gonna kick Americans out on the street if you don't have money.
SPEAKER_01Well, they there's probably something to do when a state of emergency happens. Yeah. Is there some sort of like code that's like, hey, well, if we told you you can't leave, then we're not gonna charge you.
SPEAKER_00I'm my wife wants so I have friends that go on um cruises every year. Like one year it'll just be them and some friends, and then the next year it'll be they'll be with their kids or whatever, like alternate with their kids. And we've been talking about doing it for quite a while. And but I'm I'm like a really sexy man. And like what if I get sold into sex trafficking when you say that stuff?
SPEAKER_01There's no girls here to back that up. I mean, yeah, me and Ethan. Right, and that's what I mean. Ethan gave me a terrifying look. Like he closed his eyes and covered his ears real quick, but he has headphones on, so he had to hear it.
SPEAKER_02I don't like your no not a kid.
SPEAKER_01Um that would be terrible. It's tough. Yeah, it's tough to get sold out. It's tough to have to be in your situation.
SPEAKER_00I mean it's a it's a real it's a real thing, man.
SPEAKER_01You know, going on vacation with your with your with your good looks. I mean, I know someone's gonna nab you up quick. Right? That's what I'm worried about. They're gonna leave your old lady and the kids behind, and they're taking you. Mom, where's dad? He was just so good looking.
SPEAKER_00He was too good. He's just he's just banging a bunch of hot chicks that can't get anybody else. Next time you sit at the table, you're gonna have to have a gummy. A what? A gummy. Why? Because he's so squirmy and just touching it. He just moves, moves, moves the whole time. Like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he keeps grabbing the mic, it keeps clicking and stuff and like bumping and stuff.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna have to get him a helmet with a camera attached to it so the camera just stays there instead of shaking all the way. So he could be doing a live kit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're where's Ethan right now? Oh, he's across the street. Oh wait, he's he's down by the he's in the river. Why is he in the river? What the fuck is he doing? Oh, wait, he's chasing a butterfly.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we taped it to a cat on accident. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00Now he's breathing in my mouth. Breathing in your mouth. He just does those weird things.
SPEAKER_02Does it taste like pizza rolls?
SPEAKER_01He does those weird things.
SPEAKER_00Dude, I saw this uh just this thing about attaching it to a cat. It just reminded me of.
SPEAKER_01I saw I saw one of those videos.
SPEAKER_00I saw this uh I was watching this thing on YouTube one time, and I guess this is a real thing. Our government like spent like millions of dollars like making a cat that they could control somehow. It's been so long I can't remember exactly what it was. But our government spent millions of dollars to like change this cat or whatever so that we could control it. And then like literally this happened. They released it and immediately it got run over by a car and died. Millions of dollars. That's a fact, that's a fact. Yeah, like dead serious. That's a fact.
SPEAKER_02Cats controlled themselves for a reason.
SPEAKER_01This cat is gonna change the world. Go, Mittens.
SPEAKER_02He's a five red mist now.
SPEAKER_01Do we have another one? No, sir. We spent all the money on that one cat. Mittens was it.
unknownFuck.
SPEAKER_01Damn. We taught it Russian and everything. Poop. Dude, that is funny.
SPEAKER_02I saw this thing of like uh like a little toy train with a camera attached to it, and it was on a track, and there were like two cats at the other end, and it's like, hey, this is what a mouse sees when it's looking at a cat, just two black cats, just their eyes like just staring at the like trains, and I'm like, oh my god, that is horrifying. I that's like it's like a sleep paralysis theme, and then the thing goes a little bit more forward, just just like just like grabs the train and knocks it over.
SPEAKER_01Did you did you say you saw some of those videos of the day in the life of a cat? No, they have those videos where they someone put a camera on their cat. You don't really like cats. I I fucking hate cats, but like I did get wrapped up. Where are you? Both of you I can't stand our cats. That's like the worst thing. I I gotta shut my window. I have to shut my living room off now because of my fucking cats, because they clop the couches and shit.
SPEAKER_00Like, like I'm just gonna destroy your furniture, they get on the freaking tables and counters, they're in death, and they think they own everything. There's they're dumb. My wife loves cats, and I tell her all like white cats are so fucking dumb. Like they they can't even learn their name. And she's like, Oh no, cats are more intelligent than dogs. Like, really? The dog knows a shitload of words, it knows its name. Like the other day, she's like, uh, gotta go potty. Dog jumps up, goes right to the door, and waits. Like, they dogs learn words. Cats are like, fuck you, I do what I want.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. It's like it's like I just don't I just don't think that they can learn. I I think that they're they're good at what they do. I think they're good at surviving, they think they're ninjas, but I think they they're like they're like that person that comes to a goes to a country and refuses to learn the language. Yeah. You know, like imagine if I went over to China and they said, fuck that, I'm speaking English the whole time. Yep. I used to work in a factory like that. We're like uh I work with some Yugoslavians.
SPEAKER_00And they're like danger, danger, and you're like, I'm over here licking my balls.
SPEAKER_01Like I worked with I I worked with these these guys, and and this, and there's this one kid, and um he spoke English. He was wicked pumped to be here. Like he he came from a village where his whole family had been like massacred or something like that. They they um all the all the men were killed and stuff, and him and his mom, he was a little boy at the time, and he got to he had to leave and stuff, and they ran away and they came to America. He learned English. And then um there's another guy, an older guy who worked there, and he spoke his name was Yovo, and he spoke really bad English, and he'd be like, Ethan, blah, blah, blah. He'd just say stupid shit to me, and I'd always I just teach him bad words. I'd be like, Yeah, it's like, hey, tell Jim this. I'd flip off. I said, That means hello. I'm like, I knew he knew what it meant, but I was just like, you know, I knew that he was just gonna be like, hey Jim, hello. And like, but Ethan, you gotta stop teaching him fucking bad words. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02And I'm like, oh, it's funny, but the kid keeps up saying slurs, the guests, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_01The the kid told me, um, the kid told me that he was ignorant and just didn't, he hated America and he did not want to learn English, so he just refused to, so he just went on his own way and just only basic talk. He said, like it the people in our little area, he we we all started to become friends kind of, and so like he would talk to us a little bit, but like it was very, very old school, kind of like someone's grandmother who just speaks Italian or something like that and just doesn't learn English, you know what I mean? You my I used to have a German grandmother, and um well, she passed away a long, long time ago when I was a kid, but she didn't speak English at all. She was um she's my grandma hacksbacker. She fall off a guard tower. No, but my her son, my grandfather, sorry, my grandfather um fought in World War II on the American side. I uh was dating this chick, and um we fucked this is years ago, and we broke up and she fucking uh she took a bunch, like they took like all my shit, like everything. And uh I was just like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? So I took her wheelchair from her, guess who came crawling back? Yeah. You have said that joke like five times. I said it home, I was warming up, I was practicing that.
SPEAKER_02This is gonna be my big moment. I gotta say this joke.
SPEAKER_01That was on some uh it was on uh Um a dating show where some girl was asking guys these questions and stuff, and all these dudes had really bad like jokes like that. And they're all and like and it's like the girl was hating all the dudes, but they're all like one tell telling them awesome on awesome joke, so the other one tells another awesome joke, and they just were getting worse as they went. I'm like, this is the funniest fucking dating show. Like the dudes are all just brown down, they all became buddies, went to the bar afterwards.
SPEAKER_00Fuck this. Do you watch that movie? About the uh I'd never heard of it until the movie came out, but the I guess it's a true story. The woman went on the dating show and like a serial killer was on the dating show. And he won and like took her out on date and did he kill her? Well, that would spoil the movie, but no, he doesn't. She she creeped out by him and gets away from him. But I can't remember how he gets caught now. But he does. Is it like a true story?
SPEAKER_01Is it a movie?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a true story. Like 100% true story.
SPEAKER_01Have you ever seen any of those like videos where people talk about like they ran into famous killers or serial killers and stuff? Like some dude like almost got hit by like Jeffrey Dahmer, like he was like talking to him and all this went to his apartment and stuff. He's like, I got creeped out, so we left. And and Jeff and he was like chasing him around, like, oh no, why don't you catch you stay? Why don't you stay? Like he wanted to give him a drink. He said, No, I don't want to drink, and he ended up just running as far as he could or something like that. And then like later found out was Jeffrey Dahmer. He's like, Holy fuck, I went home with that guy. Yep, that's crazy. Ethan.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01Do you have any good stories? You want to try to fill the air time?
SPEAKER_02You want to try to fill the Renee spot um on the raspy throat thing where you had strep throat earlier today. I drank water from the school water fountain, and after I did, my throat got really sore. I don't trust school water fountains. Fluoride.
SPEAKER_01You should fluoride. In the school, they have fluoride? Don't they?
SPEAKER_02I thought there was fluoride in the water. I I'm pretty sure I heard something about like like uh like in some schools, like rusty pipes or something. I don't know if that's the case, but I I just don't trust them. Kids are putting like their mouths on like like have I been putting my mouth on the this microphone the entire episode? You know what I'm you know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_01I'll think that's not Renee's microphone because she'd be really bummed out if your mouth is all over it. That's the guest microphone. Everybody's mouth's all over that one. Yep. Ethan Bacon's been on that. Don't worry, Eddie's been on that one.
SPEAKER_02Clean it nice and good.
SPEAKER_01I'll I'll go like we were gonna have an Amish guy on it today.
SPEAKER_02No, thank God we didn't.
SPEAKER_01Eddie had his own one.
SPEAKER_00Eddie had a different one. No, he didn't. Yeah, because Bacon had that one.
SPEAKER_01Oh, maybe he did. Oh, Eddie the Eddie had the one in the back room.
SPEAKER_00Yep. So is there anything else you want to talk about? When the Titanic went down, like this is crazy. I just heard this. Like, but when the Titanic was going down, there was uh like a priest, a lawyer, and a doctor. And they were like, oh no. They all yeah, they all got together. It was it was pretty crazy. And uh the doctor, you heard this one before?
SPEAKER_02Everybody's like, No, but I am very, very scared right now.
SPEAKER_00I I don't know a lot of facts about the Titanic. The doctor, you know, he says, Oh my god, the Titanic's going down. Quick, get to the lifeboats. And the lawyer says, Save he's like, uh, the doctor says, let's save the children first. He says, quick, save the children. The lawyer says, Fuck the children. And the priest says, Do we have time? That that's a that's a bad one.
SPEAKER_02That that's that's dark. That's way too dark.
SPEAKER_01This is why we need Renee. Renee Renee pulls us back. I think we go down some rabbit holes when it's just us. You know, and and honestly, last episode we did without Renee or without you, I'm like, it's definitely the three of us. We have we have to bounce.
SPEAKER_02It's the Holy Trinity.
SPEAKER_01We are the Holy We are the onion, carrots, and celery of the soup. Yes. The tat and chat soup. Tat and chat soup. I think this is it for our Tat and Chat podcast today. Josh, it was good seeing you. I'm glad you're alive and well. Thank you. And uh Eatown, thanks for coming in and uh stop touching your fucking mic. Alright, guys. Well, we'll see you next Tuesday.