O13 The Amish episode.

Have you ever wanted to ask an Amish a question about their lifestyle, where they bury their loved ones or who their god is? Well, have no fear, We asked all the hard questions to get the answers so you didn’t have to. I had a great time doing this episode.  Believe it or not, so did Jack the Amish. He even asked if he could come back on the show. Do I smell a part two brewin? Guess we’ll have to wait and see. Enjoy.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

So you were looking for something to listen to, and you ended up here. What's up? My name is Ethan, and I'm the host of the show. Over the past 25 years, I've had a wild group of people walk through my tattoo shop and tell me some of the craziest stories you would never hear unless you were sitting in that chair. I've invited a few of these maniacs to join me and talk about everything, anything, and nothing. Whether it's about UFOs, aliens, food, conspiracies, or whatever, you're sure to be entertained and probably get a laugh out of it. Or you're gonna think we're a bunch of nutjobs and never come back again. Either way, you're here with us now, so sit back, relax, hit cruise control, and enjoy the ride. Welcome to the Tat and Chat Podcast. Hey, we're live. Okay. What is going on, my tat and chat friends? Hey, what's happening? How you doing, Renee?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Hey, what's going on? What's up, Josh? Hi, Josh.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Today we have a special guest with us. We're getting right into it. I'm so happy. His name is Jack. Jack. Jack the Amish. Yeah, that's right. He uh lives in my vicinity of my area.

SPEAKER_04 1:07

First question right off the bat. Is it Amish or Amish? Uh Amish is the way we call it. Really? Yes. Because my neighbor is Amish and he says Amish.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Well, maybe he's Amish the Amish.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Maybe he's not really Amish. Like this guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:24

Yeah. Oh. I'm sure I'm sure he is. Yeah, I'm sure he is too.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yeah, so I I got I got done work. I was tattooing and I was like trying to get home because uh Jack here, um Which is an alias, by the way. We can't say his real name. Jack here um was uh working in the maple, the maple house, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Yes, I was.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

What were you doing? Boiling sap?

SPEAKER_04 1:46

I sure did. Yep. We can't say his name, but we can give you his address. No, he can tell you where he works.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

They all did the same thing anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

He lives at two awesome streets. I live at one awesome street, either.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Or the maple shop. The maple shop. Or beaver Creek.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Beaver Creek. Beaver Creek. That's a place. Shout out, Kevin. So what's up? Jack. Jack! How does it feel to be hanging out with me and my friends?

SPEAKER_06 2:11

It's it's nice. It feels good, and it I'm comfortable. Good. You should be comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

You should. Because these guys are crazy motherfuckers. I know you. I've known you a long time.

SPEAKER_06 2:21

What?

SPEAKER_02 2:22

They're wild. We're wild.

SPEAKER_06 2:24

Well, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

And I've I know a ton of shit about you. I've been hanging out with you and your family for a long time. You sure are.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

It's too bad we're not going to show his face because you're actually a lot better looking than I thought you were going to be. I'm not hitting on you or anything, but I mean, he is hitting on you.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

He is gay.

SPEAKER_04 2:42

All the ladies that watch this might think about converting, you know?

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Oh, well, you can't, we can't convert. We can't become Amish. I can't like walk up there and say, hey, hey, Jack, I want to I want to start plowing the fields and stuff. But if he decides he wants to, you can, right? Like if you want to decide to leave, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:58

I sure could, yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

How does that work?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I mean, the people would say Is there like a certain age that you have to be or Yeah, 18. At 18 years old.

SPEAKER_06 3:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

So at 18, you're a young Amish fella.

SPEAKER_06 3:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

You're out in the sun, you're doing all this crazy shit, like fucking the fields, like feeding the whatever, and you decide, man.

SPEAKER_06 3:24

This is not getting it anymore. I'm gone.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

So what happens? What happens at that point?

SPEAKER_06 3:29

Well, if somebody gets at that point, he just leaves a note or just took off and go.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

You literally just leave a note and you like you you wait too.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

They don't make it easy though, right? Like, don't they excommunicate you and so like you can't see your family?

SPEAKER_06 3:42

And well, some people they come back now and then to visit the family, but not all of them.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

Yeah, see, I I've always I've always heard. Obviously, we don't know. That's why you're here. We're here to ask you questions. That's right. I've always heard so many questions. Yeah, the family is like excommunicated, and I'm like, that's kind of bullshit because that makes them it would be hard to just leave your family.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Yeah, but I think if I can and I think we always hear it as this like story like the Amish do this, but like his family is a lot different than other families I've met. Like I actually had an Amish guy come up recently. He's been coming up really early in the morning. I don't know him at all. And uh I told you about him.

SPEAKER_05 4:22

Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

And I said, hey, this guy comes up to my house, knocks on the door when I'm not around, asking my kids to use the phone. Jack can, because I know him and my kids know him, but the but the uh the other guy don't know. It's a random. And so and so I had to kick him out. I had to say, hey dude, find another house. I'm like, I don't I don't know you. I said I have a relationship with these guys. I said they we we help each other out all the time. I said it's totally cool. But this other guy just didn't get it. And so so just because one family might be like, nope, never talking to you again, it all depends, right?

SPEAKER_05 4:54

Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Like it's like it's like it's like this guy didn't get it, but these guys, we have a rapport, you know what I mean? And and really, your your your brothers and stuff, like they've been working with me for a long time and doing stuff around the house, so um, but sometimes the old man, oh he doesn't have the same he's he's a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

How many of you are there?

SPEAKER_06 5:14

Another in your family, nine boys and one girl.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Nine boys and one girl.

SPEAKER_06 5:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 5:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

How many years apart are you all?

SPEAKER_06 5:28

Uh anywhere from a year and a half to two.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 5:33

And you're like you're kind of the middle right now, right? I'm the oldest that's not married right now.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

You're the oldest.

SPEAKER_06 5:41

You have to get married in order, right? Yeah. Well. I mean, my second oldest brother got married before my oldest brother did.

unknown 5:51

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

But you couldn't get married before your oldest brother. Yeah. You could. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

So back to the you've been wrongly installed.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

Well, I was told that by the same guy that says that he's Amish.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Amish.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

So I'm well, I mean, there's there's that there's different there's different like levels, right? There's different people. Like there's Amish that drive like Amish that drive like cars, right? Or have phones or have buggies with electric lights on it. These guys don't. You have candles.

SPEAKER_06 6:21

Yes. We got a little kerosene lamps.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

And I told your brother one time, I said, I'm gonna sneak down here in the middle of the night, and I'm gonna pinstripe some flames on your buggy. So when you're going so with the bright orange and red. So when you go to church the next day, your your old man, all the elders are gonna see that and be like, What in the hell's going on with Jack's buggy?

SPEAKER_04 6:45

I think it's funny when it's like really when it's like raining at night, you know, when it gets really dark and it's raining, it's hard to see, and you're coming around, you're driving on these back roads, you're texting, and it's it's a black and you're drinking and driving, whatever. And then you look, there's literally like as you're just about to hit a buggy. And then light. Oh my god, there's a little tiny flame, and then you zip around the buggy, and they're like, You bastard. You're like, Oh, come on, guys, like your flames is fucking big.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

I can't see it for I've never seen anybody get mad at me for driving too close or too fast around a buggy. I'm going so fast I can't even see behind me. Right. I'm just but these guys, dude, they like you guys have incredible hearing and sight because you they'll know your car um just by the sound of the tires and stuff, right? Like they know like weird shit. Like they'll go a car and be like, oh, that must be Julia. I'm like, I'm like, how do you know? I'm like, oh, I can tell by the sound of your car.

SPEAKER_05 7:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

It's like it's like just some weird thing you pick up when you're not driving a car or you just hear people's cars, and that's what you what you that's how you identify them.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

Wow. Isn't that weird? Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 7:50

That's so I mean if I am on the road, I can hear when he's coming behind. You know it's me. I know it's you.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Here's Ethan. He's gonna drive way too close to my fucking buggy and fucking pass me fucking off. And I'm like, oh.

SPEAKER_04 8:02

And he still doesn't get over it.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

I'm like fucking I'm oh it it's Jack. Hey man, sorry, bro. I thought you were a different guy. It's not that bad.

SPEAKER_06 8:12

Yeah, you are a good driver.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Would you tell me?

SPEAKER_04 8:16

No, he is not. I can tell you have not rode in very many vehicles because he is not a good driver.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

I am a fantastic I used to I used to have to like teach people how to drive.

SPEAKER_04 8:27

You can lie to him, but you can't lie to us.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

I taught my mom how to drive.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Well, that's that's sad. It is sad.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

So, what's your favorite thing to do for entertainment with your family at home?

SPEAKER_06 8:44

Like what podcasts interesting to do with the family?

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 8:51

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

What do you guys do for entertainment? Like there's no electricity at all. But what do you do for fun? What do you do for fun?

SPEAKER_06 8:59

They work. Play games.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Like what kind of games? What kind of games?

SPEAKER_06 9:02

Uh we like the H A K Q, Ace, Jack, King, Queen.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 9:08

We like play cards. Yes, cards. Cards. Cards or marbles?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Marbles. I love marbles.

SPEAKER_06 9:14

Yeah, but I'm actually getting uh two marble games in. They're called Bugaball. Did you ever hurt that? No. That's a fun game. You ever play Ouija board board? I want to play. What? You ever play Ouija board? I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Josh.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

So don't don't pay attention to him.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

What that's not bad. It is bad. Depends on how what you believe. It's not bad to ask him. And it is what it meant. So do that's true. I think it was you and your brother one time.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

It makes it sound like it was a terrible thing. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

So I think you're you and your brother, I think it might have been you and your brother. And uh we were in my basement, and I said, Hey, watch out for the ghosts. And and you both looked at me like, what the hell is he talking about? Do you know what a ghost is?

SPEAKER_06 9:58

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Okay. Oh, so so the same story again. So I'm we're gonna live it right now. So I said, I said, watch out for the ghost. You're like, you know what a ghost is? You're like, no, what's a ghost? And I said, Um, so well, ghost is like, you know, when you die, yeah, you're your spirit stays behind and you become a ghost. I see. Does that make sense to you?

SPEAKER_06 10:18

Uh not really.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

Okay, do you know what a spirit is?

SPEAKER_06 10:21

A spirit?

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Yeah. It's easy. If you don't know, you don't know. So a spirit is what makes you you. Well, at least in some cultures, right? So you are um, so like a spirit is like when your body dies, whatever makes you is your spirit, and that's what goes to heaven. I see. Okay, do you know what heaven is?

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Well what is your religion?

SPEAKER_06 10:47

Religion is when like church when you go to church.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

I feel like we're detectives right now, we're grilling him. He and he's like, I wasn't there last night. I was home and in bed, Dad. I swear to God, I wasn't drinking in the barn last night.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

We found marbles around the body.

SPEAKER_06 11:07

Yeah, well, our my religion in church is we all come together and sing, and the preachers they preach.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

What do they preach about? Yes, what did they preach about?

SPEAKER_06 11:18

Uh they they got a black book that they read out and then they preach that.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Is it like is it like God came down and he he made the planet and then you we're we're just meant to uh harvest and that's it. We can't do the Englishman ways. Like is there like things that they say that you can't do and shouldn't do, or is it not like that?

SPEAKER_06 11:37

No, it's not like that. It's uh it's in a different way.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Interesting. But you do they speak English? Do they speak um They speak Amish? Amish, which is what? It's like Dutch or something like that.

SPEAKER_06 11:49

Yeah, Pennsylvania Dutch.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Pennsylvania Dutch.

SPEAKER_06 11:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

So what happens when you die? Do you go to heaven? Do you go to hell? Uh they bury them.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Where is it? That's it. Where? I've never seen uh an Amish cemetery before. What do you guys do with the dead bodies?

SPEAKER_06 12:07

There are a lot of Amish cemeteries.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yeah?

SPEAKER_06 12:09

Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Are they like private? Like are they on your own land, like your own family's on your own land, or there's like a place where everybody goes? There's a place that everybody goes. And there's um they have do they have like stones and stuff for them, or they just put them in the ground? They do. Oh yeah. Had no idea.

unknown 12:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Me neither.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

This is all interesting news. Yeah. I mean, this is like groundbreaking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

So why can't you be on film?

SPEAKER_06 12:33

On film like like camera. Like a camera.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Like a picture.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

A picture.

SPEAKER_06 12:37

Or video. I don't know. That's just that's just our rule, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

It's just a rule. Who makes those rules?

SPEAKER_06 12:46

I don't know. There's an old man that died a long time ago, and he was the one that made these rules. Now they're trying to keep them rules up.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_06 12:55

But some of the younger people try to break the rules, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Oh, those younger people. All the younger people. I t I've been telling these guys.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

I don't know any of those people. What are your rules? Like they would never go on a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Give me an example of a few rules that you could break.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

That we could break?

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yeah, what is a rule that you could break?

SPEAKER_06 13:14

That we shouldn't?

SPEAKER_01 13:15

That you shouldn't.

SPEAKER_06 13:17

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Like something like this. Yeah. So talking with different cultures and different people is not really allowed.

SPEAKER_06 13:27

Like me talking to you guys?

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 13:29

That's not a problem. We can do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

But to record it.

SPEAKER_06 13:33

Yeah, to record it.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Is what's okay. Yeah. Something else.

SPEAKER_06 13:40

And to break the rules, like let's say I would be sitting here drinking. Oh, okay. I couldn't. I wouldn't be supposed to, but I'm sure I could. If you guys wouldn't care.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Right. But drinking is not something that is accepted.

SPEAKER_06 13:54

Yes. That's not accepted.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

Okay. So do you think like like I know a lot of young guys are doing it and stuff, right? And like that's been happening for a long time. Do you think like your dad? Because your dad is pretty old school.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Do you think he ever went drinking? He had to have, right, at some point.

SPEAKER_06 14:10

Well, yeah. If he gets sick, he does.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

He'll drink for medicine.

SPEAKER_06 14:14

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

But do you think when he was like your age, you think he was out there with his buddies, like drinking and stuff, hiding from his old man? Or do you think that was a just different era and they were like they were in it?

SPEAKER_06 14:23

They were back then I don't think they did.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

So they were respectful a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06 14:29

Yes, that's right. So you're di so you're disrespectful.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Talk to me about marriage.

SPEAKER_06 14:33

Yes, I what's the incentive of the thing? I guess you would say disrespectful, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

What's the incentive of not breaking the rules?

SPEAKER_02 14:40

I don't know why. I really don't know why. Like why why like so um like I think we just if you broke the rules, you get punished. But like what's if you don't, what's the reward? Like why why wouldn't why wouldn't you break the rules?

SPEAKER_06 14:57

Oh I know. If if you don't get punished, why not?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

What's your punishment? What's the give me an example of a punishment?

SPEAKER_06 15:03

Uh you get a punishment in church. In church?

SPEAKER_01 15:06

What kind?

SPEAKER_06 15:09

I really don't know how they how they call that. Like what would they do with bank you?

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Would they beat you up or something like that? Would they make you sit in the corner? Would they like they just tell every everything?

SPEAKER_01 15:20

They humiliate you.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Did you know what Jack did? Didn't you know what Jack did? Yeah. Jack was drinking the other night in front of How dare he! So he's never gonna find a way.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

And then like three quarters of the church is like, yeah, so the fuck are we?

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Well, Jack, guess what? We had a girl lined up for you, but you know what? Now you can't meet her because you were drinking with the Englishman on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Is it something that would happen? Could they take like a potential bride away from you?

SPEAKER_06 15:46

No.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

How does these things I want to know about marriage and how you guys we are bombarding him with I mean, I don't think there's breath in between. I have to. Nope, no time.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

I told Didn't I tell you the way you guys said these guys have questions? I'm a main guy. You're gonna get it, you're gonna get attacked by this guy.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

It's not just us, it's the people listening. There's a lot of they're very secretive. They are very secretive. It's a golden opportunity. Yeah, everybody has questions, so let's let's tell them people.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

How do you guys hook up and get married? And how does the family connect?

SPEAKER_04 16:18

Consummate. Oh, no. Sorry. Right, no. When you did that, I thought you meant consummate.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

No. Joined. Well together.

SPEAKER_06 16:25

We go in church every two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 16:28

And after church, around seven o'clock, the kids that are seventeen, until they get married, they come all together and they sit down and they sing. And then then the boys, if there's a girl that they want to take a boy to, they take a boy to that girl.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

They do what? It's old school. Like they do what?

SPEAKER_06 16:49

They take a boy to the girl and they have a date, and if they decide that they wanna do it again, they do it again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Nice. So so So you sing.

SPEAKER_06 16:59

We sing.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

What do you sing? Sing me a song. You you never heard the Amish sings? No.

SPEAKER_06 17:04

You never did? Well, I wish I would have one on my record.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

I know.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

He's even a little recording. Amish paradise. Nope, nothing. No, that's not good.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

It's like you can see it on uh why don't you want to sing for us?

SPEAKER_06 17:21

I can.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Can you?

SPEAKER_06 17:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

I would love that.

SPEAKER_06 17:24

Okay, I'll sing the first song in a little book. It's a little black German book.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Please do.

SPEAKER_06 17:29

Okay. How many rows do you want me to sing?

SPEAKER_01 17:31

As whatever you feel comfortable offering us.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Let's say, let's say is four or is eight rows a lot? Is four rows a lot?

SPEAKER_06 17:41

Four rows is is about common for let's do a four row. Okay, I'll sing the first song.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_06 17:47

I'll sing the first song in the book just like we do in uh when the young kids come together to sing. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

I want to hear it. I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_06 17:56

I'll start right now. It's called one. That was the first row. That's the third one. That was the first one. That's cool. That was awesome. What the hell did you say? Uh it was It was something about God.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Like that's you don't know what the words the words mean necessarily?

SPEAKER_06 19:09

No, not right, no.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Okay. So it's just it's it's it's a song to God to kind of praise the God and say thanks, thanks for giving us life and earth and food or something.

SPEAKER_06 19:18

Yeah, kind of like that, yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

You know what's weird? Like I've heard I've heard so when you guys are driving by in the buggies and I hear you guys sing it, I'll hear a couple guys singing the same thing. I'm like, well, singing something because it it sounds the same. It sounds just like that. It's crazy. I never really heard it. But I mean I've heard it in passing, but I thought you were just freestyle and stuff, but you must be singing church songs, huh?

SPEAKER_05 19:37

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Interesting. Love, love it. Do you ever sing on with the when the horse isn't making a rhythm? Hey, hey, hey, we never heard that.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

That's Quebec traditional music. I'm just gonna it sounds native, doesn't it? It does.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Kind of kind of has like a native like American kind of thing going on.

SPEAKER_06 19:58

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

That's really cool, dude. It was beautiful. I really liked it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 20:03

Yeah, no problem.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

That was nice.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

So, like, um well, I wanted to ask you, you you the first thing, what was the first thing we're talking about? When they can leave? Yes. So, so uh when you could leave, so maybe your brother or someone told me that like if you decide to decide to leave the Amish community, um, don't you have like a chance to come back?

SPEAKER_05 20:23

Oh yeah, you can come back.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Only one chance though, right? Or like if you left and came back and say, yeah, you know what, I'm leaving, then you leave again. Can you like, oh well, I'm gonna come back, then you come back.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

You you can just keep doing it as many times as long as you like.

SPEAKER_06 20:36

Well, there's some people that they they leave. They're gone for a half year or a year, and then they come back. Some people stay, some people go again for a year or longer, then they come back, and then they might stay back at home.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

Interesting. So I also heard that sometimes the people that left become the bishops. Is that true or is that just some Yeah, I think there's something like that. Because they've they've seen the outside world and they can tell you why you shouldn't go.

SPEAKER_06 21:04

Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

There's alcohol and bars and strip clubs and hollows and music, TVs, and all this stuff. Electricity. You don't want to be there. It's bad. Right. And you're and you're like, And what, Josh? You're like, Bishop, I kind of think I I kind of think I want to be there. All that stuff sounds amazing. Girls with no clothes on. Oh my god. Oh my god, I wanna be. That's what I want to do.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

No punishment.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

You're not selling this to me.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

Yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

And if you leave, you're welcome to come back.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

We might give you a good cracking.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

We're not trying to pressure you into anything, dude, but you know, you should leave. No, I'm just gonna be honest. I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_06 21:49

I'll just take it as you mean it. You should do what you want. Yeah, I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

I always tell them like he's the one. He's the one who's gonna leave. He'll come to the house, he'll be like, hey, can you look up on the the Facebook and uh show? Look up this guy's name, and he's got buddies that left, and they're like got big trucks now. They're total redneck dudes with their curved hats and they're like wearing boots, and like I'm just like, whoa, like there's all these dudes. You know a bunch of them, right?

SPEAKER_06 22:11

You know they're oh yeah, I know a lot of them.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Every once in a while you look them up, it's an Amish guy who left who's living the life.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

Living his best life now.

SPEAKER_06 22:19

Yep, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Do you ever get jealous like when you see it? Are you like, oh, I wish I was doing that?

SPEAKER_06 22:24

I had a time like that, but not no more.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Not now, you're just like riding the I think they live the life. I think you guys have the best life, but first I need to know about the bathroom situation. Because we all have an incident of the diarrhea. You know what that is, right?

SPEAKER_06 22:38

Yeah, I know what the diarrhea is.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Did you guys have to go outside every time? Or do you have like an emergency chamber pot for every emergencies?

SPEAKER_06 22:51

Every house got a a toilet or a bathroom, whatever. So it's not an outhouse.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

It's not. Well, it's built to the house. But you do have to go outside and you have to put lime on it and do all the stuff.

SPEAKER_06 23:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Okay, so it's like an outhouse.

SPEAKER_06 23:04

Yeah, kind of like an out house.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Because you don't really have one running water unless you pump the the well, right?

SPEAKER_06 23:10

Yeah, that's that's it.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yeah, that would do it for me. How about showers? You guys don't have that in either. It's a tub.

SPEAKER_06 23:19

No.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

It's a tub. I have to ask.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

What about the beards? Beards? Yes. Why do you have beards?

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Why?

SPEAKER_06 23:29

Because we gotta have beards. Once they get 18 or 19, they gotta grow a beard. Have to. Have to.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Have to. I thought it was something to do when once you're married, you grow the beard.

SPEAKER_06 23:41

Yeah, once you're married, you can't you can't trim it anymore.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

You cannot trim it anymore.

SPEAKER_06 23:45

Not once you're married.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

So you can you can keep trimming it, keep it short if you want now. Yeah. Once you're married, it's it's you're done.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

So what happens, because sometimes Amish split up, right? A guy doesn't get along with a girl and he leaves her, then they can get remarried after the source of that. Is that does that happen or no?

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Is there such a thing as Amish divorce?

SPEAKER_06 24:03

Uh no, they they can't divorce, but there's like shorty.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Shorty has what? Apple bottomed.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

Shorty is like, so I think we have a different definition of shorty.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

No, so uh there's an Amish guy who lives in our vicinity. His name is Shorty. Oh, and he's kind of a maniac, right? He's kind of a he's he's like the first time I met this guy was years ago, and I go to his house, he's leaning on my car, he's got a shirt unbuttoned, he's leaning there, he's like, oh, these other fucking Amish, and they do this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, he's got like trailers in his driveway, in his driveway and stuff. I think he's got power at his house. Oh yeah. And like he just doesn't care, but he still goes to he still goes to church. I think they threaten to kick him out all the time, but he just stays in it, right? He's still in it.

SPEAKER_06 24:46

Well, his wife is by the church, but he ain't.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yeah, so he's not by the church, but he still goes to church and stuff, right? Well, his wife is by the church. Yep, so they don't get kicked out. Well, I think they want I think I think I think he's just too stubborn. I don't know what's up. He's just he's too awesome.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Dude, he's like too awesome. He's too awesome.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

It wouldn't surprise me if he has a tattoo.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

But he looks great and billboarding, too.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

He could get a tattoo.

SPEAKER_06 25:10

He could? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

I should talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Oh. Can you? No. Is it a true?

SPEAKER_06 25:15

I can't know, but he is so he is just like you guys, except he's dressed Amish. He drive, he drives a truck. So he's oh, he does drive a truck now.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Oh yeah. I didn't know that. So does she ride in the truck with him everywhere and stuff? The kids?

SPEAKER_06 25:27

Uh she don't know. She took the horse and buggy.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

But she loves him, wants to stay with him, and he just he's she's just married to an ex-Amish guy. I didn't know he was driving a truck now.

SPEAKER_04 25:36

Oh yeah, he drives. There was a TV show.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

He's a really good carpenter, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Everybody hires him. There was like there was a guy in the Amish community. I think he was a midget, though.

unknown 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

But he uh same thing? It was this guy. No, I'm telling you. Is this Shorty? Shorty's not a midget. He's not a midge.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Shorty's like your normal plus.

SPEAKER_04 25:53

I'm pretty sure the guy in this show was. But you know what he's talking about? But he's living the same way as this guy. Like, had it, he had a trailer. I can't remember the name of that show was. It was pretty good though. Was it Little Almer? Nope.

SPEAKER_06 26:05

I know a little Almer, he used to be Amish, but now he takes Amish.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

No, he's talking about something on the TV, a show, but like there is a guy, a local guy who's a little midget, right?

SPEAKER_05 26:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

The little short person, the mountain midget's the right term. So, but when you guys just start throwing that around, I want to correct you. I think it's little person. And he was Amish. Amish Mafia. That was the name of it. That show was awesome. So he was Amish. I never see Amish Mafia. So he was Amish, and he uh he used to have to go to Lowe's and get shovels, and he had to cut them in half and stuff, and he used to always complain about it. And then he started working for Parkway, driving cars and stuff, and he's a little Amish guy, and he comes into Wimpy's our restaurant all the time and orders food and stuff, and now he's just not Amish anymore.

SPEAKER_06 26:45

I see.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Wow. A little short short guy.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

You know his name? I don't know if it's Alman or not. There might be a different one. I think I know who that guy is. I think he's related to my neighbor. I've seen him over there before. He's a little short person.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

But he's Amish.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

Well, I mean, there could be more, I guess, but could be different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

So the beard, no trimming. So we nailed that. I asked about the symmetry. I I I had so many questions prepared. Nom driving.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

I think we've asked quite a few. You guys rapid fire. It's only been 25 minutes. I'm like, holy crap, man. Like, we need to slow down. We need to let him talk and explain.

SPEAKER_06 27:21

Sorry, do you have any questions for us? Not that I can sing of. I know of a lot of yourself.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

He's intertwined. He comes down, he comes down and orders stuff off Amazon all the time. He grabs the phone. He can use it. He knows what to do. Nice. He's always using the phone to make calls, calls people and stuff. He's got other um he's got other Englishmen that are just as crazy, just I mean, some of our mutual friends who might probably do whatever.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

My first encounter with Amish was when I was getting married, and we uh we wanted to roast a pig for everybody for the reception. Nice. And they were like, Oh, you go to this guy, and they gave me his name, J-O-N-I Miller, right? And I was like, okay. So I'm they're like, it's down this way or whatever. They didn't give me like exact directions. Oh, it's a mist. So I started looking for his house and I can't find it. And I see these two Amish guys just got off their buggy, and I'm like, hey, do you know where Joni Miller lives? And he's like, Joni? No, and then like look at each other like, no, Joni. I don't know. I'm like, Joni, you don't know Joni Miller? Like, he sells pigs, I guess, around here. The guy he looks at me and he's like, Joni! Joni! Like, Jesus Christ, dude, settle down. Sound like I fucking pronounced it Steve or something. Like it was pretty close.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Pretty close.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

Dude, was it him? No, it wasn't him, but he told me where to go.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

Joni Miller. Yep. Got paid a hundred bucks for a hundred-pound pig. I'm like, I would have paid you 300, dude. Like, it fed the whole friggin' reception, had food for like three months after frozen friggin' pig forever. It's like awesome.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

I gotta get a couple pigs this year. You guys raise pigs or no?

SPEAKER_06 29:03

Yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

We should be doing shots right now for this episode. You don't even drink. I don't drink, but I just want to watch you guys. And we're good. I have to drive. I'm so cuz you guys have all these questions for uh Jack. I wanna like where I why are you slowing down? I mean, ask away.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

Well, I'm feeling rude right now. You said we hammered him away and no keep doing good.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

He's excited to be here. I'm just making fun of you guys. I don't I'm I don't feel bad about him. I I know this kid pretty good. So like I I have the he this kid harasses me all the time. I sure do. He's at my house all the time, knocking at the door. I'm like, 11 o'clock at night. Remember the time you came to my house at 11 o'clock at night? You and your brother were in bandanas, you're drinking, like, hey, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm I'm I'm falling asleep. And you're like, oh, we're partying. I'm like, okay, man. I'm like, you're nuts. So don't don't worry. I was just making I was just making fun of you guys. Yeah. That's funny. I think it's great. I got a picture of it. I took a picture of us. Yeah, you did. I'll show you a picture sometime if I find it.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Of them drunk? I'll put it with the bandana.

SPEAKER_06 30:02

No, we were we weren't drunk. No, not quite.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Not quite. Just partying.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

We only drank two bottles just hanging out, wearing bandanas. That's nice. They show up my house at like 11 o'clock at night. I'm wearing a bandana. They wear bandanas. Like, yeah, look at me. We're bandana bros. That's nice. That was funny.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

What about the clothing? How come like you all have to wear the same clothes?

SPEAKER_06 30:28

I really don't know. No, that's just the Amish rule, I guess, again.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

It's interesting. That's just the Amish rule. What are the colors that are allowed in your community to be worn? Blue? Navy blue. Let me sorry.

SPEAKER_06 30:43

Black and blue.

unknown 30:45

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 30:46

Navy blue and gray. Grey and some people wear brown.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Yeah. Oh yeah, no. The guy remembered that.

SPEAKER_06 30:56

Yeah, why that's what we wear to go to church.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Just when you go to church.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 31:03

Church or a funeral or a wedding.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Oh, funeral you wear white?

SPEAKER_06 31:07

Yeah. White shirt.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

White shirt. It's just it's dress clothes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

So like when about women? It's the same, right? Same colors?

SPEAKER_06 31:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

No purple, no Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:21

Well, the women, they got a lot of different colors for their dress. They do black, brown, green, gray, purple. A lot of different colors.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Nice. And they make everything, right? They make all your clothes too.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

What if you got like a a wife or an Amish girl, your your girl or your girlfriend, and she's not very good at making clothes? Are there some of them like that? Like they just can't sew really good and like the arms are all wrong and stuff, and you put it on, it's like it's always like messed up and stuff. You're like, I love it, babe. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 31:54

Yeah. Well, there might be some out there like that, but a lot of them know how to sue. There's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

How old do you learn how to sew?

SPEAKER_06 32:04

A lot of them learn around 16.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Just the girls?

SPEAKER_06 32:07

Yeah. Well, I s I sue pants. But that's that's a women's job.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

That's a women's job.

SPEAKER_06 32:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

So there are women and men's jobs.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

Yeah, well, the women they take care of the house and the men they take care of the farm and stuff. The outside work.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

The outside work. So that's that's all. So no girls will go and work outside.

SPEAKER_06 32:30

Yeah, some girls do. If they're not boys there to do it, they will do it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Yeah, there was a guy up the road, remember he um um he only had like a couple sons, like one or two sons, and he had a lot of daughters. So they're all doing the farm work, right? They have to, you have no choice.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

I mean jobs you have to.

SPEAKER_06 32:51

Yes, we help.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

We can help a cook and clean?

SPEAKER_06 32:54

Yep. We have to do help.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

Well that for you guys, because it's just it's just your mom and your sister.

SPEAKER_06 32:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Well, not your sister's married married and gone, so it's just your mom.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

So you help with preserving the food and all of that.

SPEAKER_06 33:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

What's your favorite thing to cook?

SPEAKER_06 33:08

I don't really know. There's a lot of stuff I I like to cook.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Yeah, what do you give me an example of an dinner at your house? What's on the table?

SPEAKER_06 33:20

A lot of times if it's just the boys or if mama cooked it's meat and soup or something like that. But if we boys cook, we make cheeseburgers. You know what that is? Yeah. We make that or eats and bread or and meat, something like that. Just something simple that we know how to cook.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Something simple.

SPEAKER_06 33:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

What are you guys doing tonight?

SPEAKER_06 33:44

Oh, we got a girl there to help us.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Oh, okay. Got a girl there to help. Someone's girlfriend. Your girlfriend?

SPEAKER_06 33:50

No. No, it's one of our cousins.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

One of your cousins.

SPEAKER_06 33:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

So what your parents visiting?

SPEAKER_06 33:59

No, she started to help us play yourself while my parents are gone.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

Yeah, so so this is this is kind of a shitty part of this whole thing. So his brother, uh, they had a baby. How the baby passed away. How old was the baby?

SPEAKER_06 34:12

Uh two days.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Two days ago, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:14

Now, do the Okay, I don't mean to be rude when I ask this, but I know of a situation like this. So do you guys do you view death the same way we do? Like if like if we had a two-year-old that died, we would be like devastated. Like our wives or the women would be like probably depressed for quite a while. It'd be very bad. Do you view it the same way?

SPEAKER_06 34:38

Well, we we view like for three days and for a young baby like that, we view for well a baby died Monday, so they viewed until today. This afternoon was the funeral.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

Yeah, so how but you know, is this gonna affect your brother for a while? Like you think he'll be pretty upset over it for a long time, or do you think he'll move on quick, or like how does it work?

SPEAKER_06 35:01

Well, he's gonna he's gonna have to think about it for a long time. It's gonna be in his mind how this all went and stuff like that. He's not gonna forget it. And it's gonna go after him too.

unknown 35:12

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Yeah, well, and it it well, that's the thing. I think a lot of people just think like, oh, you know, if someone passes away, it's not that big of a deal. I'm like, unless you know some Amish, it's not like that. I mean, it's not that different. You know what I mean? Obviously, you give a shit.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Well, I was feelings are some lumber feelings, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

I was getting some lumber from an Amish guy one time. This is why I brought it up. And his uh he had a I believe the kid was three, the same age as my son at the time, and he had fallen off the porch and like landed on the railing, broke his neck, and the kid died. And all of us around were like, oh my god, this is terrible. This three-year-old died, and we're everybody like everybody felt bad. And then I went and got some lumber from him just a couple months later, and he was telling me about it, and I was like, I'm so sorry, man. Like, that is that is horrible. And he's like, We have other kids. I'm like, wait, what? Like you don't even like doesn't even bother you? Like, we have other kids. Life goes on.

SPEAKER_06 36:09

He's gotta be different than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

He's gotta be what?

SPEAKER_06 36:12

Okay, he's gotta be different than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

That's why I asked you, because I was I didn't I didn't want it to be like I didn't want everybody to think like, or me or whatever, everybody to think like that's how they all think. So no, that's not how they all sing. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

How is your family? Is it like are they comforting? Are they warm?

SPEAKER_06 36:30

Are they hugging and well we all we all love each other?

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:37

We if someone would like take off and go, we all would feel bad.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

For sure. But how like do you show each other as love? Is it something that's accepted, or are you not allowed to hug your sister or your mom?

SPEAKER_06 36:51

No, we are not allowed to do that.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

You're not allowed to hug your mother.

SPEAKER_06 36:54

No, okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

So how do you Can I hug your mother?

SPEAKER_06 36:58

Uh you would have to ask her about that. Okay, I doubt it. She would let me, but not you. I doubt it.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

So how do you guys like show show that you just talk about it and stuff? Say, like, or you just you just all kind of mutually know. Definitely. You just know that you care about each other.

SPEAKER_06 37:15

Yeah, well, we yeah, we know.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

So you don't discuss it.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

It's not like that's how it should be. My dad's never told me he loves me. Ever. And I'm not Amish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Do you tell your kid you love your kid? Yeah, all the time. Exactly. Exactly. And I hug him.

unknown 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

So maybe that's what my good ones.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Devin's watching this, or listen to this right now. Not right now, but listen to this right now, and he's like, he doesn't hug me. Like, you're not getting a hug either.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

I was just talking, I was just talking with my peach.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Just trying to be nice.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Yeah, it's it's uh I think I think there's like a whole there's a whole like barrier between like your community and the English community, even though we're so intertwined. Oh yeah, there's a lot of unknowns. Like we're we're pretty much like an open book. You can see us being maniacs, jamming music and all the things we do, right? But you guys are like a mystery, you know what I mean? Like, and I think to a lot of people, I mean, I live out there, so I see a lot of you guys, and I talk to you a lot of you guys. So, and I've already asked a ton of questions, you know. I remember at one point I was thinking, oh, the Amish aren't checking out chicks, you know what I mean? Yeah, and then and then my wife was out front and I'm sitting there and I got a couple guys building my porch, and I'm sitting there hanging out, and I my wife was bending over with some pants on, and I was like, Man, she looks pretty good. And I look over at the two dudes, I'm like, what are you doing? They're like, oh, and I'm like, those sons of bitches, they're checking out my wife. And I was like, it's kind of it was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_04 38:38

It's harder to hide it in those loose denim jeans, too.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

But the point was that you know, I kind of had this misconception that these guys were just doing their thing, and that's why, you know, these questions might seem weird, but you know, it's but it's it's a there's a there's a you're you guys to a lot of people are more like mysterious in the sense of like how do they communicate? Do you know is it is it just kind of like are do you hug each other? Do you know do you love each other? You know what I mean? Is it just kind of you just gotta go through and do your thing, you know? Yeah, and until you know someone, like obviously I know you, you you know, I know you're a good guy.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

And it's something you guys grew up with until I came over, I had never seen Amish boogie in my whole life. So the first time I seen a parking lot full of boogies and horses, uh, that was a beautiful thing. It's one of my favorite sounds. I sit at home, and if I hear them coming down the road, I it moves my soul. I really love it. It moves my soul. What does it move inside when I say that? What does it mean to you? It moves my soul, and you don't understand what I mean by that, right?

SPEAKER_06 39:49

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

I'm trying to explain that it goes and gathers some emotion from beyond what I can explain.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Uh-huh. Like love. You know how love is you feel it, right? Yeah. And it's just feelings inside, but you can't explain it.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Yeah, that comes from your soul. It's kind of like that.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

I see. Your soul is what like makes you makes you some people believe.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Some people believe. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

But not you. Well, I'm trying to understand.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

I told you we're gonna grill you, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

But not in the I hope you don't think it's in a bad way or that we are being rude.

SPEAKER_06 40:29

Well, I'm I just got it lightless. You don't know much about it. You're just trying to find it out, figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

That's right. But you're a cool dude, so Well, thank you. We we it's it's it's I I'm I'm glad you're on here. I've been asking you for a while to do this.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Do Amish people smoke weed?

SPEAKER_06 40:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

No, no, none of them do ever. Do you know what that is? Really?

SPEAKER_06 40:49

Yeah, I know what it is.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

No, not none of them.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Not none of them.

SPEAKER_06 40:54

Oh, you know some?

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:56

Yeah. Well, maybe I don't know them then.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 40:59

Or maybe they don't tell you. Yeah, I guess not.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

I think that's what it is. I think it's just shrouded in secrecy. There's all these things, these guys go, nope, no one does that.

SPEAKER_04 41:07

I don't understand. I really don't understand that because like I've always thought that there was a religious thing about it, and like that's what kept you guys in line. But you're like sitting here, like, no, there's really no punishment. We can just do whatever the fuck we want, and the only thing that they do is the minister, the whatever you call him, he's like expose like he did this, and everybody else in church is like, so do we.

SPEAKER_03 41:29

Like, who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_06 41:30

Yeah, but that's not the way it works for us. There, so there is shame. Like you feel shamed. Yeah, that's right. Okay, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Is it more like a like a uh public shaming? You know what that means? Like, is it more like if you do something wrong and you're like shit, I don't want anybody to know, but you go to church and the bishop tells everybody in your community, so now you're like, oh, so you feel embarrassed, you're like, God damn it, I should have listened to that heavy metal record. That's right. That's that's kind of the way it is. And so that's so it's not so the sense of community, sense of being a part of your your your your church family and stuff, right? Yeah, all the people. So the fact that the the the the highest ranking member of your community, the bishop or whatever, right, calls you out. Jack was hanging out at the bar with the Englishman the other night, and guess what? We found his horse there and we took it from him, and now I want everybody to know, and you young ladies, you know, when you decide to fall in love, pay attention to Jack because this you're like, oh shit, I liked this girl, and now she thinks I'm like a bad guy, and maybe she might not want to go on a date with me. Is it like that? Is that the other thing?

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Girls like bad boys, so that's all right.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm running a scenario trying to figure out how it all plays out.

SPEAKER_06 42:45

Yeah. Well, if there's a boy and a girl that loves each other, they're gonna love each other forever. I mean, something like that don't bother them really.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

But what I'm saying is like, what what does what what how do you feel the guilt or upset? Like what is it's just the fact that everybody knows has spilled you a little secret, you don't have a little secret.

SPEAKER_06 43:06

Yes, that's that's right.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

So there are no secrets, everybody knows everybody's business.

SPEAKER_06 43:12

Well, no. No, no, but if someone if everybody would know everybody's business, I couldn't be here.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

Right. That's a fact. But if someone, if you did something wrong, got caught, they're gonna expose.

SPEAKER_06 43:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

They're gonna tell people about the thing because they want you to feel bad so you never do it again.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

Yep, that's right. Do they keep talking about it though? Do you like do you pass somebody a week later and they're like, my God. Or do they just or is it just a jack? Like they say it in church and then. How embarrassing layers of post that showed up once they do so yeah, so really there's there is like the initial shame. You're like just because they're saying your name and they're saying something you did wrong and it's in front of everybody, so it's almost like embarrassment rather than shame. Because as soon as it's said, it's over. Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

Yeah. And then you get to move on. So that's see, Shorty figured it out a long time ago. He's like I got a no shit about you. He's like, I'm getting by the way, I'm getting a truck. Everybody Shorty's getting a truck, and everybody just take note. Take note. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. And everybody's like, oh, he's getting a truck. And then he drives by the winter. Jack's driving. He's got his little umbrella, and the snow is hitting him. And Shorty drives by, boom, boom. Waves to him. It's all heated in there and stuff. He's smoking smoking a joint.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

He's like, dude, all you gotta do is just listen to the bishops like you're gonna church.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

You go to church, he's got his feet up on the pew in front of him and stuff hanging out, and everybody just hates him. He's gotta go. He just like smells like smells like pot and stuff, and you guys like, oh man, they're all cold and freezing and stuff. And he's like, uh, like, see, uh, someone in here smells like marijuana, and that's against our rules. Shorty. He's like, uh, fucking uh Michelle, and I'm here. Yeah, yeah. And then that's it.

SPEAKER_06 44:55

Yeah. Then he just they can't say anything about him. He can do whatever he wants.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Can he get kicked? Can they kick him out of church so you can't be here anymore?

SPEAKER_06 45:02

No. If his wife goes to church, they can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

So like it's one of those things where like he probably should be paying enough attention to get out. Like, he should know that he shouldn't be there, but he's just too stubborn. Like, I'm going anyway, I don't care what you think.

SPEAKER_06 45:15

Well, the reason he goes is about his wife. That's why he goes because he loves her. Yeah, that's why he goes to church. Good for him.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

That's why nobody kicks him out. Because they love his wife too. Is his wife hot?

SPEAKER_06 45:27

I don't know. I don't know her very well. No pictures to show us. No.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Show us a picture.

SPEAKER_04 45:36

You ever seen that commercial where the the Amish guy picks up the two what do you call us? English? Englishman. Yeah, we call you English. They pick up like their car breaks down and the Amish buggy comes by and the guy picks him up. And I can't remember what they'd say to him, but they're like, you know, life in the Amish community is terrible, or something like that. Like, how do you how do you survive? And he goes, I have to get pictures of your mom through the mail. That is funny.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Um, have you guys ever been on a buggy ride? Everyone went on Amish buggy ride. Have you?

SPEAKER_04 46:08

No, I've never been on a buggy. I I love it when Renee says it though. Like, that's my favorite buggy sound, is when she says boogie.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

Well, when um when uh my buddy Kyle was with me one time. I'm not making fun of you. I love it. We're on a back road and stuff, and he was asking me questions about the Amish. I said, Well, my buddy up the road, you know, he's Amish, he's always coming this way. I said next time we see him, I'll see if he'll take you on a buggy ride. He's like, that would be so awesome. That would be so awesome. It was a day like today, it was cold, but there was no snow, but it was like rainy and just cold, and your brother's driving. We were up um up off of uh some back road. We were like five miles from the house, and I see your brother, and I'm like, hey, and and I'm like, Kyle, you want to do this? He's like, What? I said, Can he go for a ride with you right now? He's never been on a buggy, and I have I videotaped the whole thing. He's like, Yeah, hop on. So Kyle, so Kyle Kyle gets out of the car, jumps up, he gets got a leather blanket. Of course he didn't he's got a leather blanket on it. He's like, Okay, he sits there, and he's like, Holy crap! So happy said he was warm. He said that blanket, that leather thing with the wool on the inside. He said, he said he was almost sweating under there, it was so warm. Yeah, and he's like, he's like drove there. I go home and I made a video. I'm like, oh my god, my buddy uh Kyle is hanging out with my neighbor. So it is and then so then I filmed him coming up and he's like, that was awesome, dude. I gotta show you the video. I'll show you the video. Can't wait. I'll put it at the end of this video. I want to go for a ride in the buggy. You should one of these days. You got did you just build up you built your buggy or a yeah? That was your buggy you were building?

SPEAKER_05 47:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

I went up to a shop and he's building the buggy. A buggy. Buggy. Buggy. There you go. B. You built you. Is that the one I saw you riding around with?

SPEAKER_06 47:45

I took it for a ride a few days. She says, ooh.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

So so in the summer, could we ever go for a ride in the buggy?

SPEAKER_06 47:51

I totally want to go. Sure, sure. We could.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

So one of these, maybe one of these nights in the summer, once everything's calmed down, maybe when we're done, I'll cruise over, I'll set it up with you in the morning or something. Maybe you can take us for a ride. Yeah, sure. Would your dad be mad about that or no? No, he don't care.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Can you do it down Main Street and then I wave to everyone like a princess? That would be so awesome.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

I'm sure I could.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Yes. It's a date. Let's do it. Let's go for a buggy ride. Fucking get a ride on the boogie.

SPEAKER_06 48:17

You betcha.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

That'd be awesome. It's exciting. I'm so excited. That's cool. I'm excited about it too. That's funny. Right down Main Street. We'll wave like this. I will. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

So I mean, that's all. I mean, you can't.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

Did you hear about the uh that Amish guy that he was taking his family to church and like the horse just quit moving? No. And he was like, what the way? So he got off the buggy and he went up there and he's like, he says the horse goes, that's one. And then he gets back on the buggy and he goes off and then stops again and he's like, this fucking horse. And he gets off and he goes off, he says, that's two. And he gets back in his buggy and he goes off and the horse just lays down the road. He gets off the off the buggy and he goes there and shoots the friggin' horse and comes back. And his wife's like, Why'd you have to shoot the fucking horse? And he goes, That's one.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

That was horrible joke.

SPEAKER_04 49:15

There's this uh these two Amish women and they were like they were picking vegetables. And they the one Amish lady she pulls out like this huge carrot and she goes, Oh, this reminds me of Henry. And the other the other one says, Henry's that big, and she says, No, he's that dirty. That's a good joke. All right, one more. Oh my god. What's every Amish woman's dream? I don't know. Two men a night.

SPEAKER_05 49:57

I got that one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

You gotta tell that joke. I will. On Sunday after church, tell your buddies that joke. That's a funny joke.

SPEAKER_06 50:05

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

Um, so Jack. What? Do you have anything you want to say? Do you have questions for us? And he asked him that.

SPEAKER_06 50:14

I don't really know what kind of questions I would have for you guys.

SPEAKER_04 50:18

Like, I don't give a shit about you guys. He's like, I want you guys all the time. Yeah. Like, why don't you honk the horn when we're all saying honk the fucking horn?

SPEAKER_02 50:29

That's how we're saying, isn't it? I thought you're saying rip it at the corner. Burn out. When when I'm going there, they do this. Yeah, the little kids. They want me to burn it out, right? Yes, they do. My car won't burn out. I'm like, this is all.

SPEAKER_04 50:41

I see them do that a lot. I'm doing like 65, and they're like, like, I can't do that when I'm doing 65. Unless I lock the brakes up, I can make them squeal, but I can't do that when I'm doing 65. Sorry. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

That's something that like squeaky wheels. So maybe, maybe we can do this. Maybe, maybe that, maybe we'll do another, have you come here, we'll get another block of questions for you. Maybe over the summer. Would you ever want to come do this again?

SPEAKER_06 51:05

Yeah. I don't care to do it.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

So maybe we'll do a buggy ride. We'll videotape it. And we'll Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 51:13

He's like, you guys are gonna get me assassinated. Nah, dude, I got videos.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

His brother took me out. I'm videotaping it, putting out he's not gonna get assassinated. Dude, we already know he's gonna go to church. They're just gonna say, he did this. Right. Jack. Jack hung out with Ethan and he went, took him for a ride in his buggy, and they videotaped it. They videoed it. Oh, the girls gonna be like, ooh, they did this thing we've never heard of. It's called the podcast. They're gonna be like, Jack is so muscular. Oh my god. Right? All the girls gonna be famous. And Shorty. You're gonna be riding in Shorty's truck. You and Shorty are gonna be bros. Yeah, drinking. Staying warm, going to church. That's right. You're just gonna be fucking that's right. You're gonna roll, you'll roll your sleeve up, you're gonna have a tattoo of a horse and a buggy. That's right, man. There you go. Jack is gonna be so famous. Oh man. So so so you don't ever like have your arms shown in front of your family or anything, do you? Like you're you're like you're never taking your shirt off in front of your parents or anything like that.

SPEAKER_06 52:14

No.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

So you could totally have a tattoo. You could.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

You could cover like nobody would have a body.

unknown 52:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

But your wife when you decide you want a tattoo, I want to give you a tattoo. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

Yeah.

unknown 52:29

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 52:29

I wouldn't mind to have a tattoo, but I I know that's not that's not the way. And I'm assuming somebody's gonna see it.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

So he doesn't want to yes. That's good to be responsible.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

You know what there are people that are gonna be listening to this? Even though you're a 21-year-old man, even though you're a man, someone's gonna listen to this and say that like we're pressuring you.

SPEAKER_05 52:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:50

Yeah. Do you feel pressured?

SPEAKER_06 52:52

I don't, no. His church was somebody's gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

We'll have to try harder next time. But I think are you having fun though? You enjoying it? Oh, yeah, I enjoy it. We've been friends a long time. Oh yeah. So I'm I'm glad you did this. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you came on, man. It's fun.

SPEAKER_06 53:07

I don't got a problem with it.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

Well, just just so Jack here doesn't have a problem with it. We're having fun. We're all friends. And dude, it was awesome to have you on this.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Talk to each other.

SPEAKER_04 53:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Now we just went through uh time change. You guys don't do that, right?

SPEAKER_06 53:27

Yeah, some do.

SPEAKER_01 53:29

You some do?

SPEAKER_06 53:30

Yeah. Some do, and some just go in between, like in between fast and slow.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

In between fast and slow.

SPEAKER_04 53:39

We call it medium. Yeah, there you go. In between fast and slow.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

So oh, so you mean medium? Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

Like a half hour. That's what you mean, right? Instead of a whole hour, you go half hour.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

Half hour. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 53:52

I hate springing forward. Like falling back is great. When you gain an hour, that's great. When you lose an hour, that sucks.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

I think it's the opposite. I love to spring forward. I'm so happy to see the sun early and just say goodbye to the darkness.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

I just hate losing the hour.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

I just love the sunshine back.

SPEAKER_02 54:10

I'm down team Renee. Yeah, buddy. When like this this last couple weeks, I've been like on a high. I'm so happy. I'm like, I'm feeling I'm like, yes. Like I don't care. Yeah, I want to put my seeds in the ground and start. We already started planting, we got our seeds like.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Did you two seed the it's the urge?

SPEAKER_04 54:29

I didn't do it, my wife did it, but well, it's gonna be 20 fucking nine next week.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Yeah, but then we're going back in the 50s. It's just little containers in your house. Get over it.

SPEAKER_04 54:38

Little can oh okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:40

I'm like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 54:42

Do you guys prepare? She has a dirt floor.

SPEAKER_06 54:45

What?

SPEAKER_02 54:46

You guys are prepared for your seeds and stuff, or you just put them right in the ground.

SPEAKER_06 54:48

Uh we're prepared for it. Yeah, we got greenhouses and stuff like that. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

So you're and they're already going, I bet you.

SPEAKER_06 54:54

Some of them are, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Yeah. What's already started?

SPEAKER_06 54:58

Uh tomatoes. Tomatoes are the main things that are started right now. Tomatoes and flowers.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Tomatoes and flowers have started. See? Get your tomatoes in.

SPEAKER_06 55:08

Tomatoes are disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 55:09

Tomatoes are delicious.

SPEAKER_04 55:11

And good for your manhood. What? You have an ice house? Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Yeah. We were just talking about it.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, my neighbor uh cuts ice out of my pond to use in his ice house.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

Well, yeah, watch it. What's an ice house? Explain the whole thing to do. Tell me, tell me.

SPEAKER_06 55:28

Okay, on our way over, we were talking about how we do ice in the wintertime.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

Okay. Well, you collect it in the wintertime.

SPEAKER_06 55:35

Yes, we collect it in the winter time.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

How?

SPEAKER_06 55:38

My neighbors got a pond. Yep. And then we take in we got a plow for it. To cut it in like twelve by twelve chunks and however thick they are. And then we cut around seven hundred to thousand blocks. And we make a big hole in the ice and take it take it out of there like that.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

But how do you store it? And how long does it last?

SPEAKER_06 56:01

Until September. Where? We put it in a little shed. And we when we put it in, we put a layer of ice in and then a layer of snow and just keep doing that until it gets full and then we cover it with sawdust.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

With sawdust.

SPEAKER_06 56:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

So it's like a little ice chamber.

SPEAKER_06 56:21

Yeah, and then it it frozen all together to one big jump. And it stays.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

Until September they keep it in the shed. So the shed's like airtight, right?

SPEAKER_06 56:37

Well, some of them are insulated very tight that they don't have to use sawdust.

SPEAKER_01 56:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 56:43

But ours we have to use sawdust.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Because it's not super insulated. Yes. So the sawdust packs it together.

SPEAKER_06 56:49

Yeah, the sawdust is the insulation.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

And so what do you do? You just chop some off every once in a while, put it in your cooler so you can keep food for a couple days, a week, or whatever. So it acts like a refrigerator.

SPEAKER_06 56:59

Yeah. Yep, that's what we do with it.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

So do you store food in there or is it just to store ice?

SPEAKER_06 57:05

It's just to store ice. Well, some people they store food in there. They got it very tight insulated and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

Where do you where do you keep your ice shack? Is it right, is it in your barn or is it just on your property someplace?

SPEAKER_06 57:19

Yeah, it's on our property. Right behind the big machine shed.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

Okay, so it's close to your house.

SPEAKER_06 57:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

Yes. So you can easily go there, get it.

SPEAKER_06 57:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

That is so cool. That's like just old school.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

It's like 18 years old.

SPEAKER_04 57:32

I got some pictures from when my my neighbor did it.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

When he's cutting he was mad at you for taking pictures of it. What'd I tell you then? Yeah, you did. Yeah. He got mad at you for it.

SPEAKER_04 57:42

Yeah, I was I wanted to see it because it's like if we were gonna cut a hole in the ice, we'd either use an auger or a chainsaw, probably. But I didn't know how you guys were gonna do it. So when he asked me if you could use my pond, I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna come down and watch you. And he's like, Yeah, of course. So I went down to watch him do it. It was pretty cool. So I was taking pictures and videos, and it wasn't even him. Like, I think I did say it was him, but now I think about it, it was his brother that was helping him, and his brother kind of acted like he was more strict, and he came over and he was like, You can't take pictures. And I was like, Well, I'm going to. And he's like, No, he's like, You can't take pictures, and I said, Well, you can get the fuck off my ice. And he was like, Alright, go ahead, take the pictures.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Well, you can get the fuck off my ice. Josh is so hardcore. I love it. I just love it too. Yep. Yeah, he's good at it. We should probably get going now.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

Jack, this was such a pleasure to have you with us. It was nice. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 58:40

Fist bump. Thank you for coming out. No problem. Won't hug his mom, but he'll fist bump me.

unknown 58:45

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Jack is cool. So, guys, that's it for Tat and Chat this week.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

It was great.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Jack the Amish, my cool neighbor up the road. I've known for about 10 years now. He lives at the Awesome Road on to Awesome Road.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

That was great. Thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Yeah, no problem. All right. We'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_00 59:10

We gotta beat the hit. Open the door.

SPEAKER_02 59:36

Kyle said he wanted to go for a ride in the Amish buggy. I saw my neighbor driving up the road, so I stopped on a rainy day. I said, Hey, give him a ride. Check it out.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

How was that, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Did she slip or something? What? Did she slip?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Kyle, how was that? That was awesome.