019 JOHN SOVIE II

John Sovie II is a filmaker who has been making films and music videos for over 2 decades. He joins us today to talk about movies, music, hockey and whatever our little brains can think of. Enjoy

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

So you were looking for something to listen to and you ended up here. What's up? My name is Ethan, and I'm the host of the show. Over the past 25 years, I've had a wild group of people walk through my tattoo shop and tell me some of the craziest stories you would never hear unless you were sitting in that chair. I've invited a few of these maniacs to join me and talk about everything, anything, and nothing. Whether it's about UFOs, aliens, food, conspiracies, or whatever, you're sure to be entertained and probably get a laugh out of it. Or you're gonna think we're a bunch of nutjobs and never come back again. Either way, you're here with us now, so sit back, relax, hit cruise control, and enjoy the ride. Welcome to the Tat and Chat Podcast. Okay, since you guys are so chatty today, we gotta get this mic rolling. What the hell is going on? What's up? Hello. Welcome to the Tat and Chat Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 0:58

It's hockey night in Montreal.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

Is it?

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That's what's happening.

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What's hockey?

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Hockey is a wonderful sport that us Canadians invented. It's um two teams and sticks on the list.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Listen, Frenchie, I'm pretty sure it was invented by America. Okay, I'm pretty sure America invented hockey. You can check it just like a whole lot of other stuff. No, each chat.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

America did not invent hockey. They just perfected it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Yeah, we just got really blasphemy. You know, there's a professional hockey player from our area, Ogdensburg.

SPEAKER_04 1:31

Yes.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:32

Funny story. I met the guy, and then my husband introduced me to him. He was so happy. The guy comes from Ogdensburg. He's like, can I say his name? Go ahead. He's like, here's Jimmy Howard. And he's a famous goalie for the Red Wings of Detroit. And then I'm such a Montreal fan. And I go to him and I'm like, I'm a Carrie Price fan. Nice to meet you. It was like, ooch. Why did I do that? I couldn't say nice to meet you. I hi. No, I had to be rude. French. What's Price doing these days? Frenchy 101.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

They even have him up in the box.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

Listen, he's he's cheering for the team.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Cheering, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

So yeah, so we actually I'm talking, I'm I'm friends with one of his good friends. And I've I've known Jimmy a long time, but I'm actually trying to get him on the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 2:17

So that would be epic.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

But we might not have you on that day, just in case. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Listen, I was born on the ice rink. So here we are.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Renee being crazy.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Josh. And we have a we have a special guest tonight. Oh special.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

You are.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

It's John Soby too. Yeah. John Soby too. Second. So he's uh he's uh just a he's a guy. And as of now, he he has a beard.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

I gotta say, I was uh I gotta give Ethan a little bit of credit. When I met Ethan, I didn't have a beard. Oh. And he inspired me a little bit to grow a beard.

SPEAKER_04 2:54

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

And then like a year later, do you remember I showed up and you're like, what are you doing? You looked at me, you're like, what are you doing? And I'm like, well, you know, we're shooting again together. So I figured I'd have a beard for you. And the only reason why we did that is because You have ugly faces.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

In case I had to do in case I had to do something, he'd be the wrong one. I'm like, okay, run in front of that car. Ah, stop, John. Run in front of that car.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Yeah, it was a body double. Body double double. Yeah. But you know, I can't it doesn't work anymore because my beard's longer.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

I keep cutting it down. I don't know. I don't know. I'm kind of I'm kind of growing my hair out. I actually just just just a little all around. A little uh show it, show it to the camera. A little a little uh Phil Peach fuzz. I actually um my wife's been busting my traps because I was like starting to get like hair envy, and I was like, I saw a Bosley commercial, and I was seriously considering going to get my head staple. Staple Bosley? Are you kidding me? Where they stapled, they staple your hair hair plugs, and then I'm gonna graph it, and then I was gonna grow it all out all along. I was gonna be like, Fabio's wanna be like, so John, tell us about the things that you do. I want to be twirl on like C Renee's doing it, I'm jealous. You're a fucking chia fat.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

You know how you're not. We stapled it on. Yeah, it was like I could do that.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

I could staple on just like Deadpool. It's very graphic, it's horrible, gory. So, John, I've known for how long now? Probably seven years, eight years.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Three or four days at least.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

So we we we met because uh I wanted to make a movie. Ooh. And John wanted to make a movie and does make movies. And uh we just happened to live in the same area, and someone said, You gotta meet this guy, John Soviy. And I'm like a writer and director. I don't I don't do the camera stuff, and John is the camera guy. And I remember I saw something he did a long time ago, and I was like, Man, I gotta meet this guy. And I remember when I met you um with my buddy, he's like, I don't know. I didn't have a beard. He's a straight, he's kind of weird, he's kind of a dick. I'm like, I think I'm gonna work with this guy. Oh, kind of a dick. And uh he he he he didn't he wasn't vibing, but I instantly vibe. I tell you that every time.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

I wasn't vibing.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

He wasn't vibing, no. My buddy wasn't vibing with you. Oh I liked Turner wasn't? No, I can't remember who it was. There's someone I brought. No, Turner loves you. I can't remember who I came with somebody. I was with somebody. You have to kind of be uh at least a little bit of a dick to a hammer man, right? No, you have to be confident. There's a there's it's it's like cocky and confidence. It's it's it's a funny.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

But it comes across as being a dick.

SPEAKER_04 5:21

It's all about the same, right? All about the same bottle.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

How many dudes have you met that want to make a movie? Okay, another fucking guy that wants to make okay. So this is what you know, and but I'm the guy that wanted to really make a movie. Yep. And I did. I mean, we did, we made a bunch of things together and stuff, but and uh John's done a lot of cool shit though. Once in a while. He's a it's been a minute. But but you had you did you did a documentary, The Perfect Bid. You filmed that with some guys.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

I filmed some of it, yeah. Yep, so some of it some of the interviews, like uh Perfect Bid. Uh it's about he wanted me to give you the rundown.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

You can run it down if you want.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Uh Prices Right. Kind of uh a nice guy named Theodore, uh, really intelligent. Um, I believe he does like like makes the standardized tests for the state of Jesus, I can't remember what state. But he's he he's really intelligent and he fell in love with the prices right. I don't know when Bob Barker got on, and he started memorizing all the prices because he noticed.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

Oh my gosh, really?

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Yeah, he noticed that like each week it was the same prizes.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

I'm such a fan of the show.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

So I mean he just he got so insane with it, he had spreadsheets, he made a a video game uh for himself to practice and stuff like his his goal was to get on and and cut up. So uh he goes for the show, I think, like 37 times. Don't quote me, it's been a minute.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

That's great.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

And and again, I just I shot a few of the interviews, so I didn't live with it for a year like the director does. So some of my facts.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

You were turning knobs, making sure it looked good.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

Yeah, yeah, I do the yes, I do image quality as well. That's kind of my thing. Is I'm a bit pretentious about how things look. Um except myself. I think you look great. So uh beard. Yeah, hey, well, that's inspired by Ethan. I know. Um so where was I going? You said that you 37 times. Yeah, he he went to the he went to the prices right 37 times. Uh sat in the crowd and he got to know the the people that work there. And on the shows, he would yell out the bids for the the contestants. Like uh asshole.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

I love them. Well, those everybody people did the crowd. One dollar 2500. They'd start figuring out.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

But when it's 2432, you listen to that guy.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Yeah, and well, he and he would tell people online, like, hey, uh, this is my thing. And they're like, Yeah, for sure, right? This is my thing. I want to be on prices, right? They didn't realize this guy was like the brain man of prices, right? Wow. So he get up and they figure it out and he'd start calling out the prices, and it'd be ding ding ding, perfect bid, ding, ding, ding, another perfect bid. And uh he did get on the show. Uh uh Did they do get on twice or something like that? He he got he got on, like called down uh and uh uh Theodore, come on down and and You're the next contestant on and he he failed, he failed at the wheel. So he didn't get to the show the showcase showdown because I guess he probably should have made him practice the wheel.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

He should have made a wheel uh uh uh at home in practice. You know, there's someone they're holding the brake and like kind of slowing it down and speeding it up, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:29

There's gotta be some sort of like well you'll you you learn this in the documentary, like that's kind of the producer's gig. They get they would get, I don't know if it's still the same. Like now the show sucks. They got uh Drew Carey running it, and it's never watched it with a soulless. There's there's no soul to it. It's not what it used to be.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

No, um he's kind of arrogant, though. He's up there, he's like, Yeah, it's always sick. He's like, I'm so good.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

When he took the job, he was like, I I've never watched the prices right. It's like, come on, bro. You were never sick, stayed home from school, you never watched the prices right.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

That's impossible. I don't believe him. Yeah, so call him out, liar.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

He's a robot or whatever, a clone or whatever the fuck he is. That's funny you say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Funny I say it like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

I was I was gonna bring that up. I actually was just loving, I was just reading an article about that. Yeah, about like all these people in Hollywood are clones and stuff, and they started cloning people supposedly and and and changing them out and adding the to to like cities and villages and I got a quick one for you.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Remember, we used to talk about Star Wars. Yeah. And I would say Star Wars and the similarity of things, right? E.T. Well, did you see how it's it's come out that the CIA was using the 23andMe database and the Ancestry one to look for people with alien DNA? Have you seen that? It's fuck, it's it's legit. Did I tell you that's my story?

SPEAKER_01 9:43

That's my movie.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Okay, well, it's real. And and so, well, the stories are out. Look it up online.

SPEAKER_04 9:49

Damn it, he says great.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Don't take it, don't take anything that I say. Get online and look it up. And if you don't, I I really don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Dude, that's the story for the girl.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Yeah, but so remember we filmed the girl? So maybe you gotta change the story a bit because now it's real. Fuck, that's the whole story. So, but it's just but what it is, it's just they're they're seeking out the Jedi's, right? Well, that's that's what the story was. Did you have did you do 23 and me? No, I never did. But doesn't matter because of the me. Jesus Christ, you're on a list. If you're if you're half Jedi, if you're half uh a reptile or whatever, you're on a list. I didn't do it either, but I shop at Forever 21. So you're fucked. I don't I really don't know what list you'd be on for that.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

What about it? A different one. It's the predator, not one.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

If it's just 21, if someone makes you a predator, that's what I'm saying. My story was for the girl, the reason why they're after the girl is because if you went and got a DNA test, someone was watching it and they kept saying, Oh, yeah, do this. It's for you, you're gonna find out your heritage. Can I interject a little bit? Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Just uh click on the link below and sign this uh NDA and not steal his movie idea.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Yeah, like don't lay it all out here, bro. But that's that but that was the base of it. Was that yeah?

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Well, it's real, right? Like you were just tapping into the real deal.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

We only have 12 listeners and our listeners that are interested in making a movie.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

You don't know who those 12 are.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

The listeners that are interested in making a movie can't talk to their wife and uh bringing in a cameraman. So yeah, that's the movies are on the cell phone.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

So so like he's still in, he'll go, he'll do the project. I don't know what the truth is with Josh because he told me last time I I remember I was editing, said, Yeah, for our million followers. I'm like, a million followers? Yeah, but we lost. And now it's now he says we have 12. We have 12. Yeah, we lost.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

That's because you announced that was gonna be the gas.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

God, I told you you don't do that. We didn't we didn't tell anybody.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

You're supposed to like my camera sheet's supposed to be broken.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

It was a surprise.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Well, I was just picking a number I didn't want to be over, like because we're talking about prices right. I didn't want to be over the number. So the perfect bid.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

So oh yeah, so I mean I don't want to give the I don't want to give the whole thing away, but like he keeps going back to the show. I'm dying. Uh it turns into a scandal. He helps a guy like get the perfect bid, like in the showcase showdown.

SPEAKER_04 12:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

And the producer shut the show down for 20 minutes because it's the new producers with Drew Carey.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

And so they shut the show down and they're trying to investigate like how is this like this is sabotage.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Is this the new show you're talking about?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

That's on like Netflix or something. We yeah, it was on Netflix, but it's probably still is. It's called Perfect Bid. It's it's it's a quick watch, it's good.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

The perfect bid. Um I love the prices, right? What was I so?

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Oh, the producer thing. They get a certain amount of money for the week, like say, uh, all right, we're gonna give away $500,000 in prizes this week, and that's that. So the the producers kind of picking the games as the show goes along based on what's being won and what's being lost. Really? And the producers like they came up with a game, so they know like like this one is a certain percentage of winners, this one's a higher percentage of winners. So if they get like uptight to the budget, like they gotta put the hard games out so less people win. So they are kind of if not, they go over their budget for the week.

SPEAKER_04 12:57

Bring the ping down.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

And the scandal was like the producers were flipping out when this guy, Theodore, for sure helped everybody on the show. Everybody won. Because he was they knew he was yelling out the prices, and they were all like ding ding ding, perfect bit, ding, ding, ding. He helped everybody fucking win. And then uh the producers sitting there looking, and it's like this is this is one show, and we've blown through our budget for the week. This is this is impossible. They're cheating.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

How will we ever make it when our freaking billion dollars a month?

SPEAKER_01 13:26

They've been cheating for years, like scamming it now.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Like, wait, someone's someone's on to us. He scammed the scammers. It's like it's like you know, it's like the casino. Like, they're only uh slot machines are only set to pay off a certain percentage of the money that's taken in.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Maybe don't pay Drew Carey a hundred million a year, and you'll be able to pay a few more.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Uh you if you watch the documentary, you'll hear all this stuff I'm saying. I'm this I'm not giving you any behind-the-scenes type info. It's it's all in the documentary. So the perfect bid.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

It's on, I think it's on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

It probably is, yeah. Amazon and all that shit. If not, you can find it on other shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

But you too. But you've been filming doing shit for a long time. You made a movie back in the day, that one movie that I saw. Yeah. Um, Sledge. Yeah, that's terrible. Yep. That's yeah, but that's still it's still It is what it is. It got me motivated to like, I gotta meet this guy because uh it was like you were we were we were kind of going in that direction together. Yeah. But you did you did a lot of music videos for people.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Yep. Uh a lot of rap, hip hop.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Like who are some of the artists you've worked for?

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Uh we don't have to get into that shit. What? I mean, it is what it is. Will Smith. No, I didn't I didn't look at Will Smith. I'm just gonna go back to the city. I did not work with Will Smith.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

You got too much hair for him.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Um that's how he likes it. Um I I I shot some for Jet Life. It's a it's it's a record label um under a director named CJ Wallace. Um so if you look them up, you know, it's there's a lot of the who's who of rap.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

And I I got around a little bit there. Um rap videos are nice. Yeah. Do I have another documentary out though? Oh yeah, I got Potty Town out too. Oh, Pottytown. Yeah, if you're if you're from the area of the toilets in um in Potsdam, uh a guy, uh director of that, uh Morgan Elliott, uh, did that with him. Uh check that out. That I don't that never made it to Netflix. Um, could it? Should it? I mean it should have. It's uh it's it's kooky enough. It's on the Amazon. And it's it's little guy. What's that?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

It's on Amazon, though. You can get rid of it.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

Yeah, yeah. And it's it's little guy versus the government. So, you know, there's some of that. Uh if anybody saw that, what was it called? Tread, where the guy builds this the killdozer and then just starts demolishing the town showing. Those fights are always good.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

Well, you did that?

SPEAKER_00 15:42

I don't know why the man stands on. That's awesome. No, I'm just saying documentary. It's kind of it's like it's in that vein if it was like if if the tread movie was a documentary. Or I'm sorry, if it was a comedy. Yeah, you know, because it's like this guy gets screwed over by the town, pushed, pushed around every corner.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, like walking tall. What's that?

SPEAKER_00 15:58

Like walking tall. No, but what's what's what's walking tall?

SPEAKER_02 16:02

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Well, there's a couple of them, but the rock goes back to his town, there's a casino, he smashes shit up.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Yeah, yeah. Because he's unhappy. The original's terrible. You ever seen the original?

SPEAKER_01 16:11

No, who's in the 70s, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Yeah, it's it's bad. I um I one of the rock's pretty good, though.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yeah, I like that one. But Potty Town is about Potsdam, like the guy with the toilet.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Yeah. Yeah, my wife's been telling me this story for years, and I'm like, hmm, really? I don't know. I guess she's right.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yeah, they put plant, he just got sick of it and he decided planting because they wouldn't let him do stuff. And he's like, Well, screw you, they wouldn't give him permits.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

They cost him six hundred thousand dollars. Dunkin' Donuts wanted to put a they wanted to put a Dunkin' Donuts on his property.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

And yeah, you know, there's a lot of if you watch the documentary, I don't want to get into it. Like I know a lot, I know a lot of the people involved. Politics, some of the people are my I would I would call friends or acquaintances, and and uh Morgan does a good job at pr uh presenting the information on both sides, right to the point of like uh local people that are interviewed in it, like it's equal. It's uh I don't know remember how many interviews are in it, but say there's 20. There's 10 positive, like say, hey, we like the toilets, we like what he's doing, and then there's uh 10 negative saying fuck the toilets, man. This guy's nuts. He needs to get rid of him, it's ruining my property values. I mean, there's there's arguments, there's a lot of arguments for both sides for and against. I mean, the main thing for is stand up for yourself. Yeah, I think it's cool. Uh most towns are ran by a good old boys club, yeah, and it's them and their buddies that profit off everything, and anybody that wants to try to get in and profit on anything.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

Don't get me guys down.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Obviously, it's rough. And that's kind of that's kind of the theme of the documentary. Like, that's the theme of the tread documentary. That's where I say it's kind of in the similar, similar vein, except Potty Town, like you get a lot of good laughs. Yeah, like you drive into the town and all you see is toilets. And it's it and it's a lovely town. Tread is a very pretentious town. Potsdam's a very pretentious town.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

It's not like it's like just a bunch of broken, shit-covered, stained toilets. They're I mean flower pots. Yeah, he makes there's flowers in them. They look, I mean, there's they're toilets, and yeah, they're as good as a toilet can look.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

But the but the the town that has clerks in and and it's it's it's it's got you know, pots the stuff. Yeah, no, I guess it's got arts in the town. You know what I mean? It's kind of like but that's what happens. That he's allowed to do it. He can do it, he can do it what he wants.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

He can do what he wants, and that's what he exercised, right? And and the town we show in the documentary, the town did not follow the rules. And so in the end, he won the lawsuit. I don't know if that I don't think we get that conclusion in the documentary. It's been a minute since I've seen it. I was talking about it. Um I think the conclusion was afterwards.

SPEAKER_04 18:37

I've never watched a documentary.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

The the town and him went to court and it turned into it was a First Amendment, it turned into a First Amendment issue. I'll have to watch it on the toilet.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

The whole time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

That might be on Amazon. You might have to pay for it. I'm I'm sorry, like if you do, uh, but that's part of it. Like, you gotta pay us artists because uh that's how we sub everybody's rotating.

SPEAKER_04 19:02

So here's something I wanted to kind of talk with you about. How do you feel about yourself with all of this new AI technology? Like, look at us, the kind of cameras that we're using and stuff like that. Renee's not even real.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

She's a hologram.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

And yes, so um, even in shows that we're starting to catch a glimpse of those cameras, like in scenes and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

So it's not even the cameras, a lot of the shows you're watching are AI scripts, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Correct. So it's it well, it's funny. So like every time I write a script and I hand some of my people that that are in the biz, I send to them, they're like, Oh, yeah, I clean this, gotta do this, do this. And I have some friends that are writing scripts that are so clean and so good and the punctuation is so perfect. I'm like, man, it looks like AI. And some of them take offense when I say that. I'm like, I don't fix my punctuation, but you want to know what's funny? I don't fix that shit, and I don't think I'm gonna now because you know what? It's now you know I wrote it. You did it. If I if I if I put the the or X or something like that, I mean I clean up basic stuff, but if if it there's too much of a gap and I didn't use the right comma, you know, you can do that on AI too, because you just tell AI, hey, fuck up the punctuation.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

No, and no fuck up the punku punctuation.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

It could, but like you can tell.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

Like the way I write, I write, I write kind of like it's there is a style of writing that's the truth about what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Well, like because of my flaws, that's what makes it human and makes it real, and because the way I describe things, sometimes I I kind of skip a little bit in the description. AI, and AI gets it kind of weird, but they just pull from other things.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

So you're more writing a scene that you're watching in your head.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

So you're just kind of you're trying to jot down what the what the dialogue is, what's happening between the people.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

It what's interesting is when we start, we did um Elvis Helvig, the pilot for the little TV show. What's that? Never heard of it. That we might switch into. So John worked on these on a few different things. We did Severn's Mountain a couple years ago. That's on Amazon. You can watch that. You can rent that on Amazon stuff. Pretty cheap too. It's only like $19. I think I sold it for $10 and rent it for four bucks. I did that because I thought, you know, if someone's bored, you know, I bought it a long time ago.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I can't remember how much.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Movies are so expensive right now. Like I'm watching, I'm I'm I want to rent a movie sometimes at $14.99. I'm like, that's bull. I mean, I know they're spending a lot of money on it, but when I know it just made when I made a movie cost $180 million to make and it made $400 million at the box office, and now they want to charge me $29 to rent it. Oh. $24 to rent it, $29 to buy it. I'm like, well, I guess I'm gonna buy it. You know, so I kept I kept it low because I thought I keep it low. I know I'm not gonna make any money off it, or at least for a while. But it it it hopefully it'll start to it'd be easier for someone to afford it, especially the way shit's going out with the cost of everything. Like I'm looking for the cheaper shit, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

So but we can I got an I got an AI, I got an AI rant when you're ready, though.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

I just I'm gonna finish the AI thing. So we did Elvis Helvig. So I hired uh a kid out of Mexico, um, whose um Elijah Winfrey his name is, and um or not, is it uh no Elijah Pryor. Elijah Pryor. Elijah Winfrey is a an is an actor kid from Messina. Yeah, Elijah Pryor is from Mexico and he does all he creates his own model. So he'll He made a mountain for us, a volcano, and he like mapped it all out, made the shit go in. And it and it looks really good. And the kid's got a lot of potential. He's done stuff for video games like Star Trek and all this stuff. And I found him on Fiverr. And the kid's awesome. We communicate all the time. He's actually we have a 3D printable map now for a 3D printer, so we can print the main spaceship if we want to. So I gotta find I I don't have I should buy a 3D printer. How do you not have a 3D printer? I just haven't got too much shit. That's why like that's so I haven't got a 3D printer.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Well that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hand paint it.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

I'm gonna hand paint it because I'd like to try to do a sh I'd like to try to do an old school Star Wars, print it big, and then do old school Star Wars where we film it and stuff. But anyway, I used him to do it, and uh I used him to do it, and because AI would be easy, I could buy a program for 500 fucking bucks or whatever. I could just say, hey, make me a spaceship, change this, change that. And then I could have this thing, and I see people doing it all the time, and like it looks cool. Like for sci-fi spaceship, I mean it looks like shit. But but what I'm saying is when you start to look at it, you start to realize the flaws. It doesn't get this, things look too smooth, things look weird. Then all of a sudden, now all just feels the same. Like, like the first couple times I saw AI stuff, I'm like, oh what? It kind of it was like watching a new animation, right? It was like, oh, this is weird and interesting but freaky. But now it's just like fuck that. I'm my kids are anti-AI. So we hired Elijah and we filmed a lot of stuff ourselves and we built those sets and all that. And yet at first at the film festivals, we weren't getting necessarily all the traction I was hoping. I was like, oh shit, you know, whatever. But now in this last couple months, as AI is like really making a push in like the the artistic world, we're and we're entering a lot of independent festivals and festivals that are respected, and we're we've gotten into quite uh quite a few of them. And uh, and I think I think we're in there during the shift right now. So what's happening is uh we are um I think people are respecting the fact that we put hard work into it, we built sets, we built a fucking 30-foot spaceship in my backyard. Yes, people appreciate that and the the only special effects we have a kid created crazy people, not AI. And so, and so I think I think there's like something, you know, um something awesome about those old movies and the old Star Wars.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

It brings nostalgia, even it all looks better. I think with us like Star Wars, episode one, two, and three.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Like it's kind of okay, but like it's all green screen, looks so fucking fake. The reason why I like the Force Awakens, and even though I don't love that series that that block is because the Force Awakens they still used real shit. It felt a little more like they still killed Star Wars, they did, they did, but it's still it's it it had promise for a minute. Like at first, when it was gone, I was like, okay, okay, okay. And it felt like they were using sets and shit. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, but there's aspects to it.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

So so I I don't know. So that that's that's part of the pitch.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

The only AI I really hate is the school pictures. Like you pay a freaking small fortune for your kid's school picture, and it comes and they look terrible. I think they're terrible. They're like too perfect. My kids like, I don't look like that. Like, yeah, I know that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Every kid's wearing makeup. Yeah, that's what it looks like. Wow, I didn't have acne that day. That's weird because I've had it for like a year. Um, AI and filmmaking comes down to what we were talking about with the prices right and Drew Carey. Soul. Yeah, there's no soul in it. So uh to me, if as if as an artist, it's it's it's you want to use it as a tool. I mean, if if if you've done any kind of research, that's kind of what everybody's kind of leaning towards is like keeping the soul alive, yeah. But and have have AI do the annoying stuff. Like, um, for instance, when you got to do deliveries for a film, holy shit, right? Well, if you could just uh here's some documents, AI need this, this, and this, and it spits it all out for you. Like that's that's making your filmmaking fashion like it needs to be used as a tool to make things better, faster for you, but you still well, no art, no soul, no good film. But sorry, I'm sorry, but it's actually the majority the here's the here's the problem: the major the majority of people walking around aren't really working with a soul at the moment. So does AI take off and they gravitate to that? Like, does AI films take off? And everybody's like, Oh, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. When you've got seven out of ten people's uh a fucking robot at this point, and I'm probably being generous with that. Yeah, seven out of ten people walking down the street are running a fucking script every day. They're they're they're NPCs.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Me and Julia went to Taco Bell the other day. She's looking in, she's like, that person's walking in circles. I'm like, What? I looked in there, and there was someone walking around a square, like they must have that could have been food poison in that. 14 by 14 tiles. No, there was an employee, and they just kept walking in the square. I'm like, they're still walking the square. And we were there for probably five minutes because it took fucking ever to get our food, and they just kept walking in the square and not looking up. I'm like, that's an NCP.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Five minutes it took us to get our food from DC. Oh, yeah, 100%. And I'm like, wait, wait, what is that?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

So so now that person wasn't even hungry when I go, that person leaves and says, Man, I got an idea for a movie. Like this alien thing happens, and then they I know people, I'm not gonna mention any names. I know people that just spit shit in there and they they'll send me little clips and shit. Someone that we've worked with took one of I gave them um a little screen recording of a clip they wanted to use it for the reel from something that we filmed, and they wanted it to be a pinch longer. They threw it into AI and said, Can you add two seconds onto this? And I watched, I'm like, You couldn't tell. Well, I could tell because I knew the scene because I fucking edited it. Okay, yeah, just like you could tell. Yeah, you know what I mean. And it looked weird, but it looked like it looked kind of good. I was like, wow, this is fucked up. And I thought that that worked for me because it was a little bit longer of a walk, and it just he just wanted an extra couple seconds.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

That's the tool aspect I'm talking about. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

So to me, I was kind of like on the fence, I was like, hmm. I was like, is this fucking bad? But I thought, well, if if we're filming the camera moves and everything's great, but then there's someone stand there, uh throwing eight. Can you get rid of that guy with the fucking boom? And I just get rid of them okay. That makes sense. You want to sync some music up to something, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Like you can if it needs to be uh you know a little bit longer, a little bit shorter.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Did you see some of the AI shit they're doing at first? They said this was all made with AI and it showed like a car chase through a city. It was like the 70s, I think. Yeah, it was doing all this shit, and I'm like, wow, this looks fucking you could if you look at it, you can tell it's fake. And being uh you know a camera guy, you know, you could you can see that shit. But from like that fight scene with fucking Brad Pitt and and um Tom Cruise, you ever watch that one?

SPEAKER_00 28:29

To a to a to a degree, like there's moments where I can suspend disbelief, which is a problem. What that means is it looks like it's yeah, it looks like those two guys are going at it. It looks like a uh a top end uh Hollywood. You know from experience, but if you didn't know, you could sus you could it's getting to the point where you can suspend disbelief, but the the stories are all gonna be there's only so many stories that can be told. So, like the human element and like soul, like we're taking experiences that we get in our life, and then uh shoehorning the the same fucking story that's been told a thousand times. Boy meets girl, boy falls in love, boy loses girl, uh faces demons, wins girl back, yada yada yada, right? Like there's only so many stories that can be told. But the human aspect is taking our weird experiences. Like a lot of my life is like an episode of Seinfeld. The craziest shit happens to me, like on a day-to-day basis. Weird ass shit. Um so I have a lot of like ideas and stuff, but from experiences, where's AI's experiences?

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

So Ethan, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Which character would you be from Seinfeld?

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Fucking George. All right. 100% George.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

Does your wife know you're macking on all those chicks?

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Oh, I don't mack on chicks. It's just like like I I I relate to a lot of shit. Like some days I've been like, like, all right, I'm gonna do no soup for you. And I I I live I live a kind of a blessed life, I'd like to say. I'm blessed. And so like I can maybe take a week where I just do stupid shit. Like, I'm gonna do the complete opposite of what I would normally do and see if this week is better than last week. Like I'm able to do that type of shit. Like, did you remember that episode where George is like, I'm just gonna if I would say yes to it, I'm gonna say no from now on. If I just said no, I'm gonna say yes. You ever see that episode? I don't watch, I never watched it. Where it's like, so basically it's like whatever his feels one or two episodes, maybe whatever his feels told him to do, he would do the complete opposite. And then his life started soaring in the show. So I'm like, I'm gonna do that for a week or two.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

I know a dude who's like that. I tell him all the time, like, listen, he has the worst fucking luck, and I'm convinced I've known this guy for 20 fucking years. I'm like, dude, I'm like, if you think if you're gonna turn left, turn fucking right. There you go. You just need to do the opposite because I swear to fucking god, yeah, you think this is a good idea? That you it always fucking falls on its fucking face for him.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Yep. I like the episode where George gets out of the pool. Yeah, the shrinking changing. And he's like, the pool is cold.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

I didn't I didn't have that experience, but I could relate. I've got a lot, I had a lot of weird experiences on the road when I was on the road shooting a lot. I'm not gonna tell any stories right today for sure.

SPEAKER_04 31:02

We love stories. Let's hear it. We'll bring it back on for story time.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

It's too public. Like, there's uh there's a lot of people, those 12 people, you know, they could really blow my spot up, the 12 listeners, if I told some of my stories, you know.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Yeah. Like this is where he lives. I just fucking wait. This is where he works. Ethan, didn't you have something about the AI thing, the generative AI and stuff? Weren't you telling me something about like how it can eventually it can't it can't do something like oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

So basically the idea, it's kind of like a theory. So you know how AI, like generative AI for like films and stuff, it takes stuff off the internet and then like uses like the information to like make you know new stuff, right? The thing is, if AI does end up becoming really, really popular, everybody's gonna use it. There's gonna be less and less human art, meaning less and less stuff that the AI can be trained on.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Less and less so.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

But what happens is eventually when when it gets to that point where it'll like eventually like be feeding itself off of AI artwork, and it'll like kind of just slowly cannibalize itself until like every little thing, it'll be all the little imperfections, it will take that and add them into the thing, it'll slowly kind of just absolutely what I understand.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

It thinks it's because it doesn't know any better, because now instead of pulling from real video with pictures, it's feeding itself so that one time you see the weird extra thumb. You ever seen those videos where there's an extra thumb or like like the AI videos that are weird, or or someone someone splits in half and half their body goes in the ceiling, you know what I mean? It'll think that's normal. Yeah, and then you'll just see more and more of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

In the Tom Cruise, is that Tom Cruise thing? Yeah, like where they're fighting. I swear to god, dude, if you look at those guys' arms, they are noodles. There's like no, like when they're punching, they're it's just not such a like I swear to god, it's just like a little tube. There's like no bone in there. It looks like that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

It it doesn't, it looks, it looks not just it dies, it dies.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

It's like, oh, like yeah, this this this is normal, like you know, like you've got things that have like tube arms, like yeah, that's normal. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Uh here's another thing, like soulless, soulless entities cannot create, they can only mimic, copy, destroy.

SPEAKER_04 33:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

So AI is clearly doesn't have a soul, right? So what's it doing? It's copying us, it's mimicking us.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Isn't it weird? Like, so like it's it's it's creepy. It's very creepy.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

It's very creepy. And I think we're just now being exposed to it and um like being told the truths of it when we've always been basking in this pool of fake lies and fake humans and simulation and it's all smoke and mirrors.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

All of it. It's weird.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

It's lovely. Now I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

Shit needs to switch. I just uh well, so what do you think of this whole Project Bluebeam thing? Ooh. You know what Project Bluebeam is, right? With all the people. They've been talking about it right for they've been talking about it for years, right? So then all of a sudden, a couple years ago, all these people start popping off that I've never heard of before. That are alien guys now, right? Yeah, they they earned everybody's trust. And now they're making movies. I'm not gonna mention any names, but they're making movies, they're doing all the shit. I just watched a documentary.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

Tom DeLong's an interesting one. But he is he is like 182, dude. Yeah, I know. Tom DeLong, it's like fucking asset, right? He's an asset.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

So, like, so like all of a sudden now you got all this weird shit, right? They're talking about they're doing a uh fucking um hologram Aussie. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_04 34:43

So that's wild.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

I've been doing that for a minute. I saw a Tupac one years ago. I saw that one. I saw Michael Jackson. That was a while ago, yeah. So now, like, so what are they doing? So, like, so are they truly releasing doing? Are they really releasing information? What part of AI is involved with this? Like, like, I feel like it's all like part of the same little monster that's kind of happening right now. Like, are aliens real or are beings real that are AI wants to merge with us.

SPEAKER_04 35:09

And with all these files that have just been released, but are they real? What are they trying to distract us from?

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Dude, the Jeffrey Epstein thing, all these things are like kind of like being real kind of happening right now. And I'm like, and of why the AI thing. So so you got AI kind of, oh fucking AI. Oh shit, Jeffrey. It's like it's like Jeffrey Epstein, all the shit. COVID, the world fucking goes to shit, right? And then now AI's out there. Presidents are talking about fucking aliens.

SPEAKER_04 35:35

Now new virus.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

It's all by design, dude.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

It's like fucking. It's all by design. It's not wild, it's all by design. There's no coincidences.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

But that's my point.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Like, is that no such thing as coincidences?

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Is is is is is what now? The problem with the problem with Project Bluebeam, I think, was it was they they wanted to use it to usher in like the same shit they've been trying to usher in since Hulk Hogan was screaming New World Order, baby. Right?

SPEAKER_01 36:04

I forgot he was in the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:06

The all-american hero funny right now.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

That's what they're trying to usher in, like. So so like we have an alien invasion, they come down, they say, uh, hey, uh, we're your creators. Nice to meet you. We we split you with this and that. Uh some of your stories is bullshit. Uh we made them up. And then so right there, you knocked on all the Christians. Thanks for coming out. They're they're in a fucking world of turmoil now.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

Now they're all right, so we're wondering where they're going.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

And they and the atheists are like, whoa, wait, wait a minute now.

SPEAKER_04 36:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Right? So uh then in that chaos and you know, uh order out of chaos, then everybody's looking for leaders. And then you get you get one, you get one group that steps up, already pre-planned, and they say, Hey, uh, we're gonna we're gonna do this with the aliens, or we're gonna do that, or whatever, and it's gonna be great. And then they get their one world order.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Did you see did you see something about the releasing the there's four different kinds of aliens? Yeah, like the reptilians the reptilians, the grays, yeah, the nordics, and then the the Greys are just drones, and the uh bug ones, the bug ones.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Yeah, the mantids. Yeah, the mantids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

So like there's more than that, too. So I was watching, do you watch that um that that movie just came once a documentary disclosure? It's it's what was it? I sent it to you. I said something about it. I don't remember the name of it. But yeah, so it's like something about but but like they're talking about all the shit and I was watching, I was sitting there thinking, and I was like It's the year of disclosure, you're gonna hear a lot more. But what like so they brought up some thing on there where they're saying that like um he was so close. Age of disclosure.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

It's the it's it's the year of disclosure. It's age of disclosure, age of disclosure movie. Oh, all right. I didn't mean I didn't mean to say that, but that's what it was.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Yeah, yes. So it's like um, so like one guy was suggesting on there that um that these things have been watching us, they actually are on our planet. They said if if you went someplace to hide on our planet, where would you go? You wouldn't go to the moon. You're in the ocean. We've scanned the fucking moon, like we know all the surfaces on the moon, but we haven't we haven't even done anything with our oceans. Like you hide in the ocean, that's where you would hide because we can't even go into some of those spots, right? And so they're saying, like, like uh what if like that's why they're not exploring it. Well, it might be because they got threatened to not explore it. It could be, but you haven't we haven't ranted about this before.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

They've been here for they've been here before us.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

So like so now, but we've we've evolved more in the last 80 years than we have in the last like our whole existence. What what would they say? 15,000 years is how long humans have been here. That's what that's what Yeah, but whatever they say. Yeah, exactly. So but they're proving like they found they found structures that are like 30,000 years old and 40,000 years old and shit. Yeah, and now Antarctica is math.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

The math, what do you the math does not math? A lot of the shit they taught us in school. The math does not math.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

I pretty much just use um plus and and minus. I don't really divide much, I don't use fractions much. That type of math is valuable. Yes, you do math. That is the code that's the code of the simulation.

SPEAKER_04 39:13

I love to bake. So I do math.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Plus one is two. Keep it simple.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Dude, your quarters and your halves are important too. I'm telling you what. Yeah, it's funny. I tell my daughter she loves baking. She loves it. Math is reading.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

It's math, math is reading. But but it's science is like if you're gonna if you're gonna learn any science.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

Chemistry.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

I hear you.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Leave that to the to the people who do who do like to do that stuff. Do not do that making uh I'll go back to making costumes and stuff and and and uh other things regular people whatever moves, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Pretty wild. So yeah, the aliens. They've already been here, they've always been here. Josh, they're amongst us.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

I thought don't you have alien anything alien to talk about? You're awful quiet over there.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

Just listening.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

So sad.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Watch the watch the the documentary They live. It's uh it's actually a film, but it is they live? Yeah, but car uh Carpenter says it's it's a documentary. And Roddy Roddy Vipers in it, and he says, like before he passed, he's like, that's not a film, it's a documentary. And you get a lot of shit in that.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Is that the one where he says, I'm here to chew kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out bubblegum.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

You fucking got it. It's got the most epic fight scene of any fight scene. I mean, I mean, it's gotta be in it's gotta be in cinema. It's like it's like it's like an eight-minute alley.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

Who's that dude? What's his name? He plays the president in Rick and Morty.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Yeah, I can't remember his name. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

But that's the fight scene, right in the alley. Yeah, him and Roddy Roddy Piper. Yeah, that's a great.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

It's just trying to put sunglasses on him. Because if you put the sunglasses on, you see the aliens. You see the truth. You see through their their their disguise, their it's like be happy, eat McDonald's.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Yeah, you see the subliminal messages.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

It says some weird shit. Yeah, it's all it shows the subliminal messages.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

And I don't watch enough TV, I guess. I feel so uneducated about all those documentaries.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

That's a film, that's a movie. That's a horror film.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

See? But like so uneducated.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Like candidly, candidly, the people behind it are like, hey, that's a documentary. Like, pay attention to that. That's there's more truth in that than uh it's not just to scare you.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Yeah, it's cool. It's good.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:31

I got nothing for you, man. Sorry. What is he doing?

SPEAKER_00 41:33

I'm just reacting. He's thinking about them wings next door. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 41:38

He's I don't know. I so many things going on.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Oh, what's the score?

SPEAKER_04 41:44

It's not started yet. Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Starts at eight.

SPEAKER_04 41:47

Starts at eight. Puck drop. Dude, I'm a hockey fan. Such a hockey fan. Is that what's happening now? Eight o'clock. No, we're just chicken. Because, dude, it's it's it's puck drop will be in 20 minutes. There's a hockey game tonight. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

There's a hockey game every night this time of year. Come on, Ethan.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

It's getting down to the wire. Come on, Ethan. Get with it. Come on, bro. Josh is oddly quiet tonight. He's like not saying anything.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

He is. We had so much to say before the show started.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

I'm scared.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

That's what it was.

SPEAKER_04 42:16

I know. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Ethan told me to shut up. Shut up. It hurts your feelings.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

No, I said you don't talk before the show because you want to get it out on the mic because that's when the Well I don't want to cut our guest off, and he had a lot of good things to say.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

So he has a lot of awesome things to say. She's t she she was tearing Metallica apart before we started. I'm just thrown under the bus. No, you said you wanted to talk about it. I I mean I agree with her. It's just that's what that's what was missed before we started that she was a rant on Metallica.

SPEAKER_04 42:46

It was a rant on Metallica and musicality itself.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

Well, it depends on what Metallica you're talking about. If you're talking about before the black album, then I will say no. If you talk about after the black album, I'll say, yeah. If you're gonna be negative, whatever's I'm a how do you before the black album?

SPEAKER_00 43:04

What's that dude's name? Dave Mustaine. I like Dave. Have you seen uh what do you think of his comments on Metallica? Have you seen any of that?

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Uh no, there's a does he have a documentary or something like that?

SPEAKER_00 43:12

I don't know if he's got a documentary, but in plenty of interviews, he he doesn't leave a moment to say that basically a lot of Metallica's hits were his he wrote. That's kind of and I've heard they they stole some shit from other people, maybe. I've oh yeah, I've heard that from they stole the name. They stole the name. So, like, come on, bro. What what'd we say about soulless things? They cannot create, they can only mimic, copy, destroy. Secretary. There you go. And I'll you know, I mean it writes itself.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

Yes. Go ahead. No, it's just I'm not bashing them. It's just when I got to you did off the air. You did off the air. I did. What I did bash is the fact that we all know I'm French. And so music to me was only one orchestra. The guitar, the voice, the band itself is all one sound. So when I learned to understand the language, there's this one song of Metallica that I just used to love, and his lyrics were just too disgusting and atrocious, and it just I don't know. What song was it?

SPEAKER_02 44:19

I was like Give him a bit, child. Did you just write that? Did you scroll that? No, it's how was what is that one? It's Gilly My Bitch.

SPEAKER_04 44:29

Yeah. See, there you go. No, that's not it.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Yeah, I can't remember who the other one was. When I was uh when I was younger, we were one of my I can't remember who I don't even want to say who it was, anyways, if I did remember, but yeah, that's what they they were singing it one day and like get in my bed, child. I'm like the fuck did you just say? Like that is not the lyrics, guy.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

Yeah, what song is that? That's a Metallica song, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

Uh It ain't my bitch.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

It ain't my bitch. That's like that's newer Metallica, right?

SPEAKER_02 44:59

No. It's uh what Spaghetti Incident, I think it's on that one.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Metallica? Yes. Metallica's album called Spaghetti. That's Guns and Roses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

Sorry. You're right. But you're right.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

But it's uh I didn't listen to anything Guns and Roses after Appetite for Destruction. In my opinion, Appetite for Destruction is one of the best rock albums ever written. I think it's fucking awesome. And anything beyond that, I was like, eh. Like I just don't listen to it. I love Appetite for Destruction. Falls generic. And Metallica, all the way up until the black album. I remember when the black album came out, it was so exciting. I grabbed, I go, what the fuck is this garbage? I was so mad. And I just now I go back after they load.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

That's what you're mad about. Commercial app.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

Once they did then they did load, I was like, what the fuck is it? And then they reloaded. I was like, when the fuck are they gonna unload? Because this shit sucks. And like and then just from that point on, it was like the record captain spinning the same.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

It was on load. I don't know what it's like. It's called Ain My Bitch On Load. They should just go on tour with you two.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Dude, there's still Yes. They're one of the biggest fucking.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

So I'd know, like, all right, where are they playing? We're not going to that city tonight. Wherever that show is happening.

SPEAKER_01 46:05

There is a cool show coming up. Uh Down and um Helmet are playing at the uh it's in it's in it's in Montreal. It's the Metalist Center.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

The Bell Center.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Metalists or whatever it's like.

SPEAKER_04 46:16

Oh, the Metropolis. I like it. I think it's called the Metalist or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

It's the Metropolis.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

The Metropolis. I was just at an awesome concert in Liverpool, Lorna Shore. It was great. It was fantastic. I'm a metalhead. So that's what it led to bashing Metallica. Because what who is it that said that didn't lack that didn't like heavy metal that much?

SPEAKER_00 46:40

I don't like you. I don't I'm not either.

SPEAKER_04 46:43

I just don't care that I don't hear the words.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

I want to see the strokes. Because that's how it was. I play in a band for over 20 years. That's not very loud. And we're pretty we're pretty loud. And like uh loud music just pisses me off. Like if I go to concerts, even like I used to like uh like puddle mud. I used to like puddle of mud, and then my brother bought me tickets. We went and I and I'm like halfway through it, and I'm like, I'm gonna kill someone. I don't like big crowds, I don't like loud music.

SPEAKER_04 47:13

Just put a plug in. Dude, you don't like a mosh pit.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

But it's different when you're standing in front of the crowd. When you're in front of the crowd, it can be as big as you want, and you're not actually in it. Like nobody's and if they do crowd on you, you're just like, fuck off me. You know what I mean? That's what's funny.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

A heavy concert is that you're literally in a pit. So when you push each other, bodies are flying, elbows. It's just the best.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 47:40

I punched so many people, ripped so much hair. She's one of those people now. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

She's in there punching. We we we did that. We used to play shows. It's unvoluntary.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

What are it supposed to do? You have that that foot coming at your face. You're pushing, you're elbowing somebody. You're being tossed, you're in a pit.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

We we we met a show. Fucking get out. When I was in high school and we were in this punk band, and like we were playing, and it's at this dude's house, and there's probably 50 people crammed in this little garage, and everybody going out. And uh one of our buddies just got back from the Marines and he comes in and he just starts fucking hair-there's video of it. Like he's at everybody's mosh and he's just like in the middle going, Wham, just dropped the pig. What the fuck? That's a trasher. I'm like, what the fuck? And like he's in the he's in the metal and and through and and and uh uh um pits and stuff, and I was just like, what the fuck? Just start throwing hands, yeah. Yeah, just start fighting.

SPEAKER_04 48:30

It's like surfers are like dad. They come at you, they're flying on the top, and they're surfing, and they're trying to hit picked one up and dropped him on the ground. Like, don't punch at people, don't kick. If you're gonna serve the crowd, serve the crowd. Enjoy your time, get touched. Just pull your penis out, punching at people. Just get grabbed by a thousand people everywhere, get pushed.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

You ever looked in the anger management? I used to. Do you have anger? I had to do that. Do you wrestle with anger?

SPEAKER_01 49:00

You wrestle with the emotion of anger. About 25 years ago, I used to be a good one. I had good concerts. I knew this chick, she was deaf, and she would always want to go to metal shows. And she loved music. We loved metal. She would always come to see my band play. We'd play at um Planet 505 or The Lost Horizon, and they have an awesome PA system. Why do you? I said, why? I said, Why metal? I said, What what's can I said she was born deaf. She can't hear a fucking thing. And she's like, It's the vibration. She's like, but she would just go fucking nuts. And I thought it was the coolest thing. She loved it, dude. Like, loved it. And I was like, I totally get it.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

The vibration of everything.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

But I didn't really ever take that in consideration, you know what I mean? Like until I started going to shows. And then I'd be hanging out. Like, I love like I just went and saw like um Lamb of God and Mastodon about a year or so ago. And um, it's just so fucking loud. And that's I put my earplugs in, and some people are like, Oh, I I don't want to destroy my ears. I'm like, I can't, I need my earplugs in. I think it sounds better with earplugs, and I've been playing with earplugs for 25 years, and I just I can hear everything so clean, but it's the it's I think it sounds better with your phones, the noise canceling ones, and you can't hear it. Oh, dude, the vibration though, the way it sounds, I don't know. It just sounds fucking badass. Like it just and that thump on your chest, everything just I'm ready to go. Yeah, that's why I want that's I always said that. I'm like, if I'm gonna have to get into a fight, just give me a fucking walkman and some duct tape, tape it on my head, and I'm good to go. This is it damps me up so much. Like, and I love lifting weights the metal, gives me fucking anxiety.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

I can't I can't stand that frequency. It it's music manipulates your frequency.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

It does, it's allowed vibration.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

If you get the right music, it feels good, it feels nice, doesn't it? That's right.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Well, I listen to music for different things, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 50:37

Yeah, yes, me too.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

To beat people up, different moves.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

I don't beat anybody up. I don't even fight. He's the fighter. Dude, you should see my lover. That's why I go from Mellows. I have such a weird I love all style of music except for country.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Ugh. Yeah, can't do country.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

Can't do country, but everything else, I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

We'll listen to Will Smith though. Fucking Will Smith. We talk about it. I didn't do it. I've never met Will Smith. That was a complete joke.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

It seems like a nice guy.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

I like uh slapping people out. I like the old stuff. Like, you know, that's um it's bullshit, right?

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Like that's a that's a show. That's a Fresh Prince. Oh boy, we're gonna be. Fresh Prince. I grew up on that.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Yeah, I watched Fresh Prince. I think I could beat Mike Tyson.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

But maybe it's that's a nostalgia thing, though, too.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

I never watched French. I don't know. I never watched I never watched uh Seinfeld, but not Fresh Fred. I never watched um 30 Rock. Where was that that that was a big show, right? Something like that. Then there was another one that was a big one that fucking with all the nerds. Um Big Bang Theory.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

You never watched Big Bang, never the Grey's Anatomy things, nope. Television.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

You know what I did watch? Scrubs, no. I'd go to my parents' house sometimes in the afternoon and they'd be watching like what's the soap opera with Victor? Fucking young in the chestless.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

I'd sit there, I'd be like, I'd be talking about Victor Newman still going. Victor Newman.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

I'd be like, you know how many times he's died? I'd be there hanging out, like, hey, so what's going on? And then like I'm watching, I then I get sucked in, I'm watching this weird. It's so good. And then it ends up like, what the fuck happened to Victor? Is he gonna kill the person or is he not? Oh, yeah. So then I'm like, I gotta go back the next day, and I gotta watch it's just rope shit every fucking day. That's it. You don't even have to watch it. I've watched more of that than any of those shows combined.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

Anybody that watched it, you don't have to you haven't you haven't had to watch it in decades. Just say, what's Victor up to? And they got the fucking story. Like he's still in it. He's dying times. He's rich, he's broke, he's married. What's her name?

SPEAKER_04 52:24

I don't know. Is he still in it? Vicky, Vicky Victoria, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

She was lost at sea. She was uh I mean I grew up on Bates. Isn't that Gilligan Island? Yeah, dude. Same thing. Price is right. I grew up on Price is right. Price is right.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Well, we used to have HBO, so if we if I stayed home sick, it was HBO. That's where I discovered like The Last Dragon. You ever watch The Last Dragon?

SPEAKER_00 52:48

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

It's got it's got Bruce Leeroy. Bruce Lee. Yeah, all the way. I love that movie. Yep. Had all those 80s rockers and stuff or 80s pop stars in it and stuff, and they're all fighting and shit. Had the Shona. Remember that? You remember Shona?

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Dude, that shit was awesome. I watched the reason why I wanted to get into tattoos and get tattoos was because of uh it was, I think it was Eddie Murphy, and I think it was 48 hours. I can't remember what movie it was. That's a good one. And he had a he had a bad, he had this bad guy who's always chasing on this biker dude. He had a teardot trap too, and he had like one tattoo on his arm. I was like, that is so fucking cool. I was like, You still don't have a teardrop? I don't want a teardrop. Bro. That means something, okay? And that ain't me, bro. Okay, bro.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

He ain't about that life.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

But I uh but yeah, that's what that's that's what got me into it, man. I was like, I saw that shit, and like ice pirates, you ever watch ice pirates? Ice pirates? Ice pirates? No. Nope. What kind of pirates? No. Ice pirates. Nope. Oh my god, you gotta watch ice pirates. Anyone listening, you want to watch a good comedy movie? Ice pirates. There's pirates. There's no water, and they're trying to get they're trying, they're chasing down a spaceship that's full of ice because they can bring it back. Waterworld was good. Waterworld was good, and people didn't like it back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

I like it. I like that. Postman, those are his two best movies, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 54:06

I thought the bodyguard was great. I mean, that's true. I never watched it. I like the bodyguard. I never watched joking.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

Blasphemy. Some of those movies, like my mom loved, you know, and she watched them so many times. And like, if you wanted to watch TV, that's what you had to watch. So like The Bodyguard is one of them. I love so I I still like that movie. Can you sing for a Dirty Dancing? Like that's a great movie.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

I know every step of that dance. I even taught that for a a couple that got married. It was their wedding dance, because I'm a dance choreographer. I do that for weddings. And uh I taught them how to do the dance and they nailed it. Nice. They were so good.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

You ever seen the commercial where the guys like they're they're acting out that scene in the kitchen of like putting their food on the table? And he's got a kind of a bigger wife, and they're acting it out, and he keeps turning around and he'll sing Patrick Swayze's part, and then she sings the other part, and then it get like just before the the jump to jump scene, they're like, nah, nah. And then he turns around and he's like, ah, fuck it. And he turns around and she runs and he picks her up and slams her through the fucking kitchen table. He's like, Come in a little too hot.

SPEAKER_04 55:15

I did not watch that. Sounds funny, though.

SPEAKER_01 55:17

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

I'd watch it.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

I sometimes I get more entertainment out of commercials. Yeah, that's pretty good. There was a commercial like that with with um uh it was a Frito Lays commercial.

SPEAKER_04 55:28

The Doritos.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Was it the Timmy and the spaceship? Oh my god, I forgot about that one. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

He gets in the spaceship and he's like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

Yeah, and he's shaking it or whatever. No, I was talking about one. There was a Fritos one where like the dude was like um following this guy around. He's like, he kept waiting for him to prep it, and he's pouring all the all the shit in there and stuff, and like all this, all the all the dips and stuff, and he's following around and he's like waiting. And every time a guy looked behind me, like he'd he'd look away, and then he'd start. He's kind of waiting, and then he brings out, okay. Here's Chip's like, oh look, he's like he stumbled upon and shit. That I wanted to hire that guy to play in Elvis at one point. I wanted him to play Elvis. I I couldn't find him here. It's the only thing I ever seen in the news. And that commercial I was like, I I talked, I talked to my lawyer, and I was like, hey, dude, I'm like, how do I find people? So you can find him in a commercial database and stuff, and I but I couldn't find him, I couldn't find the commercial. Then I found the commercial and had no information on it.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

He was probably just randomly on, he's probably a worker on set. And they're like, hey, we need you to dude. He would have been awesome.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

I need someone to do this part. He would have been awesome as Elvis. Like, he would have I didn't I didn't want to be Elvis. He would have been awesome.

SPEAKER_00 56:32

I like you as Elvis.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

Well, we're gonna do, I want to do more.

unknown 56:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

Well, guys, guys, we're at we're at hockey time. We're at that point. The game started in a few minutes, and he wants to see the game. You watch hockey too?

SPEAKER_02 56:44

I do, but my team's been out for a while, so it's never ready. You gotta cheer for my own.

SPEAKER_00 56:49

But that's when it's fun to watch, because you you don't have any, you don't have anything invested in it. So you just watch and enjoy and enjoy that's why I like I don't mind after my team's out because then it's just I can enjoy it and I can root for the people I want to root for.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

I went to one hockey game that was professional. Did I tell you this before? I went to game three of the what's the what's the team that you like? The Canadians. The Canadians versus the Penguins, right? Is that is that is that a big rivalry? That's my team. I went to game three of that and I and I videotaped it and it was like the fucking Super Bowl. It was like they're going, rah. Isn't this awesome? Like this is my first game. I go, this is your first game. I'm like, yeah, they go, this is one hell of a game for your first game. I was like, I could not believe the arena had this little towels, everybody shaking shit. Oh yeah, they're losing their fucking minds. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

There is fans of sports, and then people have got to experience hockey fans in Montreal, the Bell Center. Right now, they're street filled. Everything is red everywhere. The crowd, it moves. If people are fans of hockey, go to Montreal just to experience the Habs fan. This crowd is just crazy.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

The playoffs are the playoffs are different in hockey. Like you go to a regular season game and it's always wild.

SPEAKER_04 58:12

It's Montreal.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

But playoffs are crazy.

SPEAKER_01 58:15

Is that what it was? Everything is game three, playoffs. That's playoffs, yeah. Yeah, it's game four. Yeah, I saw him at game three, and that was like a big deal. Everybody said that was a big deal because it was like the middle of the middle of the road or something like that. Was it five games or something like that?

SPEAKER_00 58:26

Every playoff game's big. Like everyone's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

Yeah, I don't know. All I know that I could not believe. It was like the big, like the I never went to uh an uh sporting in the game.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Well, must have been an earlier earlier round. Like best of five. What the first two rounds are best of five?

SPEAKER_00 58:41

They're all best of seven.

SPEAKER_04 58:42

Seven? They're all seven now. The first foot to four. The first that make it to four win.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

All right. Yeah, all that. For some reason I was thinking they were best of five the first round. You gotta win 16. That's how baseball is. Maybe that's what I was thinking. Yeah. Basketball too. The Knicks. Knicks are in the finals. Are they? Yeah. That's uh that's gotta be a minute since that, huh? Uh 99. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

So sporty for you. That's how we end this. Your favorites. How many sports. How many?

SPEAKER_01 59:15

So, how do they get like a whole bunch of Knicks just play? Like a bunch of guys named Nick, and there's crazy. I'm gonna start a team called the Ethens.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

They haven't, they're not good very often because it's hard to find it's hard to find Knicks that start their name with a K. Yep. So that's why they're usually not that good.

SPEAKER_04 59:32

They're the Kiniks. I was just gonna say the Kinics.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

So yeah, I I haven't been into NBA since Michael Jordan. But um I like college basketball and I like Carmelo Anthony. So when he was in the NBA, I followed him around wherever he went. And then he went to the Knicks while my I have a 28-year-old son, and he was a lot younger then. So he fell in love with the Knicks. Yep. So I didn't watch basketball for quite a while after either. But the Knicks would keep making the playoffs, and my son's like, you gotta watch them. So I was like, fine, I'll watch them just for you. Not turn on. I'm like, oh, it's actually kind of fun again. Just the playoffs. So I don't I watch like maybe one or two regular season games, but playoffs come and I'm watching it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

I saw Carmelo Anthony at Syracuse a bunch of times because we used to get free tickets. I love Carmelo Anthony.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:20

Man had him in his taxi, bring on him to Syracuse.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

We used to get free tickets because I used to work with people with disabilities, and part of my my job was I went to like WWE shows and SU basketball games. I I didn't go to any football games, but basketball games, and it was during the time when Carmelo Anthony was there, and he was and so we used to go downtown all the time and go to the bars and he'd be there hanging out and stuff, and he was just he was like I had this doctor who went to Syracuse and he's uh so he's alum, he's got season tickets, and he used to give me tickets all the time, and I take my kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

So we uh we've been to like a ton, a ton of uh games there. But there was one one in particular where it was uh like they weren't doing Syracuse wasn't having a very good season. And he calls me, he's like, Hey, I'm not going to the game. Do you want these tickets? And I was like, No, I'm not, I'm not driving out to Syracuse, right? Like, nah, just whatever. And then like 20 minutes goes by or whatever, and I'm thinking about it, I'm like, man, it was against Duke. So I'm like, my kids are gonna kill me if they find out that I could have gone to this and and they beat them somehow, right? And I'm like, there's no chance they're gonna beat Duke, but if it happens, and I gave these tickets up, my kids are gonna kill me. So I call him back and he's like, Yeah, come get them. I go down and get him. We drive out to Syracuse for the first game. I can't remember what their point guard's name, and it was I think it was Johnny something, but he hits a three-pointer at the buzzer to beat Duke, and that place went fucking nuts. It was and I'm like, man, that was a good last second. That's why you called back.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

Yeah. And you didn't bring the kids? No, they were there. They were there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

Oh, you should have left them the home.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

Right? It was it was so great. Like all the fans followed Duke out to the bus. They were all like, overrated.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

Like it was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

Party went on forever.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:04

Crowd goes wild. Yeah, that's cool. Well, guys, I think that's it. Josh, you have no joke for today, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

I was gonna let Renee do it. She uh she wanted to do that joke. I don't have a joke. Okay, tell us a joke, Renee.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:15

I don't have no, I don't have a joke. No, come on, Renee. I'm not doing the just do it in French. I hate you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

Gosh, I'm not doing that was way better than any joke that Josh has brought to the table recently. He had a couple good ones in the beginning, and that's it. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

All right, there's this blonde, and she's walking down this the river bank. She's walking for a while, and all of a sudden she sees another blonde on the other side. And she goes, Hey, she's like, hi. She says, Oh, how do you get to the other side? And the other blonde says, You stupid bitch, you're on the other side.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

That was a good one. I like that. That was a good one. All right, guys. Thanks for coming, John Sovi. Josh, good joke. Renee, good to see you. And uh we will uh we'll see you next Tuesday. See you.